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Only reason to sack the manager is if you think the players can do better but don't respond to him. I don't think these players can do much better. Think about Tav as an example. He is just past it.

Frauds who have loaned millions of pounds to the club to keep it afloat. Aye, okay.

Second half we were looking well on top till Aberdeen broke away and scored .

Repeat tedious buzzwords on a football forum ad infinitum, apparently.

All this talk of player trading models, the basics of signing players to play SPFL football has been missed completely.

I'm not sure a player when going for a 50/50 ball, or a foot race with an opponent is ever really thinking about how much cash he'll get. I think if there's a crackling atmosphere, and fans roaring him on, then there may be an extra motivation, compared to playing in a flat atmosphere.

I can't agree. We have actually assisted Celtc lord it over us for the foreseeable future (with our coefficient points), which is horrifying. I spoke to a yahoo a few days ago who told me he's getting bored with how easy it is for them. Just like our Scottish Cup semi final win in 2016, I find it quite easy to dismiss these potentially great memories when ultimately, we fail to pick up the trophy.

If Clement said it was one of our better performances, then maybe he just wants to try and convince us all that we are progressing. Me ?.. i saw no progress tonight . Aberdeen are shite , and we still managed to lose against them.

If the board can ignore the constant tantrums for an entire season then I will have a new found respect for them.

Patience is required for our current situation. If that means a fallow season then so be it. The rebuild is the whole club, not just the football team. We are in a complete mess, we have no money, there is no quick solution.

I don't see much point in sacking Clement. Wait until we get rid of the likes of Dessers and Tav and then bring someone in.

He’s going nowhere. He will be here in 2025. Club is barely functioning at the moment no way we sack a manager.

I think I hate Dessers more than any striker since Frank McAvennie.

Dessers will do anything to avoid shooting.

What about Dessers ? ..oh sorry ,i thought you said whingers.

No surprise to see our captain sprint up the tunnel there. The only good thing we can say about that is that it's not more than 1-0. Once again a performance devoid of belief, organisation, strength and, above all, any quality whatsoever. Front four a bad joke. Changes essential. It really is beyond unacceptable. Player after player shirking out of challenges, outmuscled when they do decide to get involved and unwilling to put the hard yards in to be the difference. A team full of cowards and I'm stunned the manager tolerates it.

At this moment in time we'd be better off with Ken Dodd

Very tight offside there, Dessers looks on.

These results could be forecast 5 years ago. We need to supplement our income with player sales and aren't doing that regularly enough. Another option is for us to reduce costs significantly which would presumably reduce the playing quality (even further). We seem to be going back to the Murray model of just hoping something (a Patterson, Bassey or Seville) will come along and help us out of a hole. Will the accounts look much different in 12 months time? Any salary savings and additional Euro income would be offset by the additional costs of Hampden and the loss of £5m of one-off income, although we should save the £4m of settlement costs. It'll be an 8 figure loss again And what about the following year? At some point we're going to hit another brick wall, and we'll need to reduce player purchases significantly and reduce the wage bill a lot more than we have already, as the trading model that we were promised has disappeared and the board don't seem to have any answers other than to thankfully continue to support us through loans and funding.

The truth is we’ve not got anyone better than Tav and Dessers

Their fans singing about Durrant tonight sums up what a pathetic bunch they are. Celebrating a tackle that happened nearly 40 years ago is just weird. They call Rangers fans glory hunters but how many of them are now just appearing during a winning streak? Ach, no matter how bad our team get, we'll never be like they are. 😎

That sums it up to a T, I was actually driving away from Aberdeen Way tonight when kick-off happened hoping we somehow pulled it out of the bag. Five miles Into my 70-mile trip home my engine starts flashing add more Ad-blue etc check engine fault Emission problems all the lights you could imagine went off with two kids in the back. I got home in the end safe but the car is gone first thing in the morning! Sometimes in life, we have to cut things off and im afraid it's time we as a club and most importantly the fans do it rather urgently to avoid a disaster waiting to happen if not already begun.

We could make him manager? Kill two birds with one stone.

What does a supporter do when patience runs out? Stop, er, supporting the team?

Just imagine how great it will be that first time you walk up to Ibrox knowing that Dessers is nowhere near the place.

Unfortunately that seems to apply to the vast majority of modern managers. Another reason why football is becoming so boring to watch.

Clarification required. Are you urging Dessers to shoot, or...........

It's almost like Clement has never watched any Scottish football. Everything about it is a bit weird - almost like he and a few of the players want Rangers to fail. I knew we shouldn't sign an Albanian.

No, you can score with your shoulder. It appears to be the correct call (but very, very tight). We don't deserve to be be level, we are so far behind Aberdeen (let that sink in).

The manager is going nowhere, the players are going nowhere, we have no money to bring new players in, the accounts are a bombscare like our defence. The club has no leadership. We are in a rut here for the long term. buckle up.

Forgot our front four were in the game.

That has been coming for a while.

Some unconfirmed suggestions that Cerny hasn't travelled.

@Rousseaupointed out a few days ago that the problems we face domestically (mainly due to the low block) don't occur in Europe. I agree with this, to an extent. However, our results against the scum somewhat invalidate it.

And you lecture certain posters about the need to stay on topic. Oh and by the way, the club is an omnishambolic mess 😄

I was referring to the Scottish Cup final (Wallace, 1-0). Get your point re: their shame game (I couldn't get a ticket).

Its not a surprise, it is Groundhog day. We are a serial loss making concern that for decades have been looking for answers to avoid and ways to support the on average, 10 Million pound habit. It is tied in with currently unrealistic expectation levels that demand an almost instant hit. Post balance sheet items would point to same again, next year.

Getting beat.

If we had beaten Eintracht Frankfurt, it would be no contest.

Are we thinking Shirley and Floyd

A couple of other comments: We are largely reliant on financial support from the directors, and there are £22m of loans outstanding to them at the year end. They can be rightly criticised over a number of issues but they are obviously still highly committed to the club, and I'm not sure where we would be without their ongoing support, for which they deserve to be praised. We have a settlement cost of £3.8 million, which is presumably the cost relating to the Elite/Hummel case. It's so frustrating that we have wasted cash in such things, although perhaps it was factored in to an extent when deciding to switch to Castore. We are now apparently litigation free for the first time in 10 years. Thank f***!