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During 2002, Murray had a dozen companies leeching off Rangers. At the time, Ibrox had more corporate hospitality capability than any other stadium in the UK. Rangers paid to install the kitchens, Murray noted they were only being utilised once a fortnight on average. He formed Azure Catering and the kitchens went 24/7 providing food for hospitality at football, rugby, cricket, .................... speedway grounds across the UK. In it's third year, Azure had a turnover of £22 million and, a profit of £5 million paid to 95% majority shareholder, David Murray. In the fourth year, Rangers were responsible for replacing the kitchens. For every pound he injected into the club after 1998, he took in excess of £11 out.

Back in the late 80s and early 90s Rangers used to train in public places, like West Of Scotland Cricket ground and Jordanhill College grounds. You could go along and watch them and I occasionally would. I witnessed a bounce game once where you'd have sworn Peter Huistra was the finest football player on the planet. His close control, touch and dribbling were literally unbelievable, he simply couldn't be dispossessed. The speed with which he'd make a fool of anyone stupid enough to try and tackle him was incredible. Mikhailachenko and Trevor Steven played in that match too and were close in ability, but Huistra was simply outstanding. Come a Saturday though Huistra was a nearly player. He'd some very good games, and some good moments in games but he wasn't the player I saw in training. Professional sport is 90% ability and 10% mentality. If you don't have that final 10% the other 90% isn't enough. Barker, I suspect, is similar. I think Matondo is another one. It's why so many talented young players simply don't make it.

He was a disaster, entirely of the boards making.

Maybe it's just a reaction to where we've been recently, but I can't get excited about either candidate. I'll give whomever gets the job 100% support and hope and pray they'll be successful.

I'm sure that we have had this conversation before but: When Azure was set up, Murray owned 70%. In its 3rd year of trading, its turnover was £4.4m and losses were £28K. Azure was sold in 2004 to Eliance Events Ltd, a joint venture between Elior (51%) and Murray (49%). Its losses to date at that point were £2.2m. in 2005 and 2006 Azure's turnover was around £14m but they made losses of over £600K in both years. In 2008, Murray sold out his shares to Elior. As for the "For every pound he injected into the club after 1998, he took in excess of £11 out" we had to pay someone for the services and why not a Murray company? Easier to control. How much of that £11 was pure profit? Unknown but it could have been £1.50-£2.00, or even less. The big unknown is whether the services that the Murray companies doing so at market value? Was there a competitive tendering system? There's a lot to criticise Murray for but we should make sure we're making the correct arguments.

Nothing wrong with a Coke every once in a while.

Not sure I align with this way of thinking. I'm sure in our own working lives we have all come across the great incompetents and the sooner they are dealt with the better. The longer its left the more problems arise.

I think 10% mentality is too small a component John tbh, I think it's definitely higher.

Would have been better with Ronnie Barker and Leonard Rossiter

Hamas Ya Bass! On Saturday last, we awoke to the world news story that Hamas had conducted a raid into Israel. The targets were an open air music festival, a couple of small towns and, a Kibbutz. All were located within five miles of the Gaza - Israel border. The initial death toll was high and has since climbed higher to 1,200. Another 2,900 are reported injured. World reaction on Saturday was shock but, a number of Palestinians and their supporters celebrated the raid. Sellik's Green Brigade epitomised this spirit by unveiling numerous Palestinian flags surrounding two large banners proclaiming, 'Free Palestine" and, "Victory to the Resistance". Both broadcast and print media throughout the UK have reported the Green Brigade's actions, pictures included. Without exception, there has been condemnation. An almost eighty year conflict with few rights and numerous wrongs on both sides can do without the contribution of the emotionally flatulent Green Brigade. The balaclava'd Provo' wanabees have something the Palestinians trapped within Gaza do not, PROTECTION. Israel have begun to exact revenge, constant bombing and shelling of the Gaza strip has inflicted over 1,000 deaths and 5,000 wounded. The Green Brigade's protection is provided by the national broadcaster, BBC Scotland have not reported it. PQ CSC are in splendid isolation in this regard thus, when ra Sellik Board issued a statement on Monday evening they ignored this action too. The statement was posted on the club website but, not on their Twitter account. Sellik were following PQ's lead in containment. The statement is three paragraphs, the first disassociates the club from the Green Brigade, the second reiterates being open to all and, the third asked for supporters to unite in showing respect. We know the Green Brigade prepare their banners inside the ground and the materials for their construction are delivered to ra Stade de Gadd. As for the club stating political banners are not welcome well, .......... stop laughing at the back. The fire was fed more oxygen when former Celt, the Israeli, Nir Bitton took to Twitter pleading with the supporters he played in front of for nine years to ignore the brainwashing and think for themselves. Current Sellik player and also an Israeli, Lil Abada asked the club for a guidance meeting. BBC Scotland did not report this either, not on their football pages, nor on their news pages. Their reporting has been confined to former Don, Clark Robertson fleeing Israel in the wake of the attack and, First Minister, Humza Yousaf's in-laws being trapped in Gaza. The Green Brigade are in danger of becoming a separate entity and we know PQ do not care for the sensitivities of declared separate entities. The collective broth of Bhoys have retaliated by issuing their own statement demanding all supporters bring a Palestinian flag to their next home game against Atletico Madrid. Once again, PQ found themselves in a soup of non reporting. UEFA have again charged the club for the GB unveiling political banners against Lazio, a depiction of Mussolini hanging by piano wire and demanding the Lazio fans, "follow your leader". Why are PQ refusing to report? The noose around Beeb Scotland's collective neck is as tight as those around those effigies twisting in the breeze under the north curve roof. At different times, RAB Cosgrove, Michael Stewart, Tom English, ......... etc have all praised, "the witty and incisive banners". Posterity lasts for a long time and PQ does not have a history if it does not report on it in the first place. It is akin to the current mini-serial on Jimmy Saville, 'the Reckoning' - there will be one. Another non reporting is the current fate of Tom English. Conveniently, he has been dispatched to France for seven weeks to cover the Rugby World Cup. He remains unwelcome at Sellik Park and the Gang Hut show no signs of the solidarity displayed when Rangers withdrew Chris McLaughlin's press privilege. If PQ do not talk about a situation then the situation does not exist. The hypocrisy displayed by the PQ Gang Hut is truly the Celtic State of Mind.

It's important to remember this is just football. There's always a light on the horizon and hope has to spring eternal. The really dressing stuff is what's going on in Israel and in human trafficking or drugs gangs.

How he ever came to manage Rangers is hard to fathom but, to be fair, he was a disaster of his own making. I've no doubt the board appointed Beale with the best of intentions - y'know the stuff that paves the road to hell. Their big mistake was thinking good intent was a substitute for sound decision making. Turns out it was a huge mistake. Gerrard was a decent appointment at the time, no doubt. Van Bronckhorst wasn't a bad appointment in itself, it just didn't work out in the end and that happens at all clubs. But the decision to appoint Beale was just reckless.

Well I feel a sense of renewal with either Muscat or Clement. It might turn out to be misplaced but these look like the people we should have been appointing after Gerrard. It might take a year or two but I think these two will take us a long way forward. It's all about the quality of the individual and they both make the appointment of Beale look ridiculous. Let's go.

I've always thought they can say as much or as little as they want as long as they win.

I was going to say a nice head of hair but that would rule most of them out.

A big shiney bald heed by the looks of the final 2.

Caring as much about how you look as actually fixing a problem is a soft approach to life. Better just admitting you made a mistake and fixing it.

Even take Lowry into that

With young Scottish players over the years, I think drink and women have often been big factors in them not filling their potential.

Sorry, Doc, I have no idea about his tastes in centre backs. I hope technical, tactically astute and flexible, fast, and, em.....oh, yes... robust.

That night was the one and only time I questioned whether I should continue to support Rangers. Given what came after that night, that may surprise some. To be spat at, threatened, called all sorts was bad enough, but then to hear Murray not only support, but congratulate those who attacked the protesters had we questioning if I wanted to be a Rangers fan. Thankfully I saw sense and continued to support our club and whilst it's been hard at times, never regretted it. As for your point about earning what came after that dark night, it's hard to disagree with this.

All the real talking takes place on the pitch. We just have to hope the board make the right choice and the new manager can get this squad up and running, before shifting some of the serial losers ASAP.

I'd rather have Frankie Howerd.

With some of the hypothetical negativity, I wonder why some folk bother. We can get a manager that is better than the last three. It's not that unbelievable.

Clement, though successful, from what I have heard is too nice. There is nothing nice about the SPL. Muscat ‘should’ understand that. Stickin with my original choice. Big Kev for the win.

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There are too many pressers these days. They're generally boring because managers can't really/honestly speak about the things we want them to. Having said that, Gerrard was far better than GvB or Beale on that front.

11-9 to Clement. Quite close. To be fair, most would be ''happy'' with either.

Murray was/is a gambler. He is a product of his conditioning, his old man was a professional gambler.

Compare the size of McCausland to Lovelace or Bassey.

I suppose that, if you consider two players of substantially similar ability, and one becomes a top pro, and one drifts down through the leagues (or disappears from the game entirely), it is ALL in the head, the mind, the psyche.

Dragan Mladenovic was the Zidane of the Balkans, apparently.

Has he been sacked yet?

100% - except it wasn't the entire support just the vast majority. There are still Rangers fans who'll not hear a bad word said against Mr Moonbeams.

Jacques Brel on repeat for those in the pound seats

No worries mate 👍 .

I'd like to express doubt over both so that if either one turns out badly Ill be able to act wise after the event. (Which is to say, I don't have a Scooby.)

I think the secret of DOF and manager is getting two people who are singing off the same song sheet

I voted Clement but I might as well have voted for Patrick Swayze for the amount I really know about them. I just can't quite get past that very poor period Muscat had in Belgium.

I’ve defected to Muscat. God knows why. As others have said, the spectre of Le Guen possibly.