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No I think he is done. I would get someone in now ! I normally would give managers time to rectify poor performances but I just see Beales football as to defensive against similar level teams we need a manager who will play aggressive pressing football I don't see that enough under beale and I don't think he will change.

If you make contact with a player like that whilst you aren’t in control of the ball, arm on shoulder and tangling the feet then there is every opportunity for the ref to call a foul. I think it was soft but calling it cheating is nonsensical to me.

If a suitable replacement were to hand, or at least available, or even could be found in the short term, * would anybody be really shocked, surprised, or otherwise taken aback, if MB and the Club parted company in this International break? I think that there may be now a substantial %age of the support who would get rid tout de suite - certainly more than 50%, maybe as much as 75%. SPL: Played 4 lost 2. Horsed, embarrassingly, by PSV. Has no idea of his best XI, and doesn't start, or even give game time to, players he has bought in. He started 3 today -out of what, 9?- and one of those was an emergency selection. Has no discernible style, or game plan, and the players look confused, lost even, and his defence remains a clusterfuck. In nearly a year, he has defeated the fhilth once, and that in a more or less dead rubber. Surely these facts add up to the shoogliest of shoogly pegs. * Would Billy (Bluenose) Reid and Graham Potter be interested, or persuadable?

I hope someone put their foot through that fukking drum.

Our new signings are shite, Butland aside. That is the reality. To have nearly 10m quids worth of strikers warming the bench who then come on and show how incapable they are. Awful. I hope I’m wrong, but fuck me they haven’t provided anything positive to go on.

You have to assume that if Beale had a clue we wouldn't be in this mess.

He was a mile onside.

Going back to last year, bringing in a rookie after sacking GvB was just madness

Definitely regressed, no shape or pattern to our play today at all.

They must've been told to sit so deep otherwise the manager would have been telling them to step up. The amount of room McGregor got was criminal.

Another week like this and I'd probably settle for Brian Potter.

I'm unsure what was worst today Beale not noticing giving McGregor the freedom of the pitch let him totally control the game or him noticing and not doing anything about it.

And I'm sure if MB shot your dog, you'd blame the gun.

Sorry, I understood that and was agreeing with you. The way the midfield was set up today effectively rendered it inoperable.

I'd blame players for mistakes, but it doesn't look like mistakes, per se. To take Goldson's poor clearance: you can blame Goldson for not clearing properly, but you can also blame MB for: the messy defensive live; the fact we need to make a clearance because we can't build-up properly, or press properly, or counterpress properly; the fact there's no players central to win the second ball. There are structural issues, there. You can put all the blame on the players, but that then suggests we need another rebuild next summer. That's scary to think about. For me, we need a better Coach. Just my opinion.

It was his point. I agree with it, however: our players don't look like they know what they're doing. I'm not blaming them. I've not criticised any players this season, other than the odd performance. For me, it's MB that is to blame.

VAR is only meant to intervene if there is a clear and obvious error. Given that we are discussing it and having differing views (I can't see how 😁) why did VAR get involved? Given the referee got the decision correct on the pitch, what did VAR say to him to change his mind? At the game I knew the goal would be chopped off. Given we've had a week of ex-Celtic players telling us that the refs give Rangers all the decisions, there was only one way that was going. If that is a foul, we'd be as well stopping football.

Has Beale been sacked yet?

This is the thing for me, Celtic we’re awful, truly the most awful Celtic team I’ve seen in a long time, and our players and manager let us down.

John--If you're reading this, your first call is to Graham Potter. G-R-A-H-A-M P-O-T-T-E-R.

Wow, just wow.

The thing that really sticks in my craw about the manager is that he turned up at that game when Gio was still in charge. I really didn’t like that and it shouldn’t have been allowed. I just watched our strikers linking up, Lammers smashing a drive into Danilo’s face. Hilarious.

This manager is clueless and it ends one way. The only question is how far behind do we let him get us before we wake up.

Never take a goal scorer off

Im pissed off with that team. 3 new players out of the 9 we've signed and one of them is only playing due to Borna's injury. It's hard not to feel that a lot of money has been pissed up the wall. I called it earlier as I initially thought we would only have 2 new starters playing, and then corrected myself due to the injury. What's the point in signing these players if they aren't better than what we already have?

You've missed Scott Brown, just parted company with Fleetwood Town

No, but we can hope that they take responsibility for their awful performances.

Nooooooo! Another xG debate would genuinely tip me over the edge Rousseau. Anyhow. I'm away to set up the firepit and pour myself something tall, red and full bodied. No not Christina Hendricks...

Maybe it's a bit of both.

Apologies for reading that wrong and agree wholeheartedly about our midfield. I think that Cantwells energy should be used at the tip of a midfield to start and maintain the press. They were there for the taking and we let them walk through us into yards of space.

@CammyF strike that - they did actually have more shots in the second half (4 vs 3).

I don't think he's blaming the players - he's blaming MB for not giving them a plan.

If the scum had the previous Rodgers' team they'd have beaten us about 4 or 5-0 today. That's how bad we were.

We could look at it another way: the Celtic player has possession of the ball, Dessers makes a challenge (from behind) and doesn't get the ball.

He wasn't tho. Watch the clip again. Desser is running and plants his foot (what is he meant to do with his foot) and the Cletic player kicks him when he swings at the ball.

He won’t be sacked until it’s way too late. Much like Gio. He looked like a ghost in the post match interview and the lassie from RTV sounded like she was crying while asking the questions. Amateurs on and off the park.

You don't care? Wow. The result was more important to me than the performance, and always will be against that mob.

How many people kick someone behind them, whilst looking the other way and running in a straight line ahead? What a wild take.

Celtic were poor, weren't they? (Although, they really didn't need to do much.) I think last year's team would win the league. That's quite sad...

I honestly think just about any manager with a bit of experience could do a better job than Beale. That first half was a total embarrassment. Up against one of the worst yahoo sides in living memory and we gave them the freedom of Ibrox Park.

Beale is toast , the sooner the better.

One goal wrongly chopped off, a penalty not given, and a freak Sunday afternoon volley ... that's all that separated us. But truth be told, that was abysmal viewing. Not an atypical Old firm game, but what a stramash. No real game plan, no cohesion, poor poor quality in passes and decision making, alas, only match day 4. Last time around, we got hammered 4-0 on the opening day. Week ruined, mostly by tactics and players not up for it. Anyone knows where the ref lives?

What a freak Robertson is .... fall down, get a foul.

I look fitter than Dessers

One of the most pathetic derby performances I've ever had the misfortune to witness. We're giving them all the space in the world and hoping to get something with long balls. Absolute garbage. I've had enough of Beale.

This is beale ball. If you are surprised you have not been paying attention.

I fear that they will start like dervishes on amphetamine, and our lads will start, as they seem to have been doing, looking like they have never seen a football before.

What a man he was. My fave clip of Jock Wallace

Maybe a classic player? Or manager? On the manager front...I was reading an article online about Jock Wallace the other day and I was shocked to discover that he was only 60 when he passed away in 1996. That meant that he was only about 41 when he completed the treble in 1978. It just shows you how times have changed as I always have this image of JW being in his late 50's/early 60's in his first spell at Rangers and then being an elder statesman during his 2nd spell. I guess 41 year olds looked different back then...