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Or maybe a high-spec campervan?

Agreed. He also won us so many points last season and was my POTY. To turn round and deny ourselves a player of that quality, who mean improve our team and get us more points, on a point of principle seems short-sighted.

Why talk sense when you can just have a go at Rangers?

Without Tillman I don’t think we reach the CL group stages or win as many games domestically. It’s a nice fantasy to think we could have just played Lowry instead but the fact of the matter is he is miles off a Tillman.

Sshhh 🤐 you can't post positives. Negatives only please.

Lowry was also injured for ages and his mother passed away... tough season for the kid. Lets hope he kicks on now.

Seems to me we're still 3 or 4 players short of a league title, so they'd better get on with it.

https://fourladshadadream.blog/2023/06/21/rangers-fans-forum-qa-explained/ Rangers fans forum Q&A explained Stevenclifford football, Football, Rangers, Sport June 21, 2023 6 Minutes Brief notes from Rangers first ever Fans forum held at New Edmiston house. In attendance for Rangers: James Bisgrove, CEO Greg Marshall, Fan Engagement & SLO David Milburn, Customer Service Manager Natalie Nairn, Head of Retail & Events Robert Boyle, Head of Digital & Content John MacFarlane, Facilities Manager John Speirs, Disability Access Officer Josh Hollywood Head of Corporate Nick Thomson, Head of Communications Introduction from each Key points from intro’s Sports bar to open in January, plans well underway. Museum Gift store to open next month. Fan engagement strategy, first in Scotland to create such a strategy. Desire to create a close bond with the support. Ibrox stadium to be the most accessible across the UK for disabled supports. Pre submitted Questions (Brief notes – Key points) James Bisgrove – Stadium expansion– ST renewal rate 99%, 10,000 on waiting list. From board meetings, real appetite to expand capacity of Ibrox. 3 year disabled plan will expand capacity by 600 overall. Mid to long term, the corners where screens are, potentially 3000/4000 additional seats each corner, cost £20-25m in total. Potential to partially fill 1300 seats each corner cost of £8m. Being massively explored. Lowering the pitch, 4500 seats, £15-20m major investment. Robert Boyle – Trophy Room/ Museum – Major job as we have so much memorabilia, various visits to major museums to make sure we get this right. Been a five year project. Museum split into nine zones each telling a different theme of our history. Includes temporary exhibition space which can be used if there is something to celebrate. Some items from trophy room will move. No major changes to trophy room, some items will move however. John McFarlane – Stadium facilities upgrade – Pitch investment, LED lights upgrade both Ibrox and training ground. Under soil heating upgrade at Ibrox pitch. Lift upgrades, one more to do then all upgrading. Press room upgrade. Main Stand heating upgrade, major boiler works throughout stadium. Significant improvements throughout stadium. James Bisgrove on above – Basic facility upgrade is key, like the toilets and in and around the stadium. Like the tarmac footprint outside. So much we want to do, not only about showy projects but also basics. David Milburn Supporters move – Looking at ways of improving atmosphere, singing section is being looked at and various positions will be tried throughout the stadium. Desire, for greater good, to maximise stadium atmosphere. Will work with supporters who have been moved. Greg Marshall on that – Atmosphere improvement for greater good, fan surveys have pointed to fans all wanting a better atmosphere within the stadium. Will work with any fans being moved, with Disabled work and fan singing section. Josh Hollywood catering update – Levy with us eleven months, club keep 74% of all profit across the club. Demand for restaurant huge, generating 80k profit a month. Levy huge on new sports bar, will be first in Glasgow to have self pour beer. Levy made huge investment in the club, restaurant rebuild. Working with Levy on vending machine ideas to reduce waiting times during games. Very excited about self order booths in Copland rear, can pre order food and pay then collect. Hopefully helps waiting time and fan experience. Floor open to questions – Complaints about Rangers platform for items. No app for example. – Robert Boyle – Agrees, so many different partners, so many different way of working. Have listened with ticketing website and will fix that. Trying to redefine fifteen years of business practice but understand the point and working hard to fix it, for likes of single sign on throughout on line (Shop, ticketing etc). Plans for the app supported by the board, plans for the next twelve to twenty four months. – A lot said about match day experience, let ourselves down with treatment of travelling supporters. Everything difficult where we go, Easter Road dangerous overcrowding and cattle like treatment. Greg Marshall – Start with Hibs, extremely difficult last season’s midweek game. It is known and some changes were made which helped for last fixture, will continue to work with them to improve things. Aberdeen issues at last game, really poor day organisational wise, have challenged Aberdeen but positive dialogue has happened. Constantly engaging with other clubs across country to improve our treatment. – How are we going to be more creative in revenue income plans? James Bisgrove – So important we maximise income, four pillars are vital and revenue has grown to £85m last year which is record levels. Very close with Uefa for making decisions which is to benefit our maximising our revenue. – Disabled parking spaces, can’t get one. John Spiers – We have 100 spaces in Albion but stadium footprint is under complete review from the club. We are tied to allocation from away games/Hampden. We have 160 tickets for Hampden but only 43 allocated parking spaces so outwith our control, we have fed back to them on this. We have doubled the recommended spaces at Ibrox. – Corporate travel to Europe, do we have a travel partner? James Bisgrove – CTM service and delivery completely unacceptable and non delivery for that is the reason. Destination Sport is our new partner and we will communicate on that very early. Greg Marshall – Understand pricing issues, Ajax situation was horrendous and apologies on that from the club. We will be pushing early decisions and confident we will get that early information to supporters. – On the app, is digital ticketing a possibility? Robert Boyle – Yes! Short answer is exactly what we are looking at, looking at best solution for the support. – Safe standing update? James Bisgrove – Trialing singing section areas to get idea of best possible place. We see across Europe benefit to the atmosphere, I know and believe it can improve Ibrox. It has been discussed at Board meeting, the next six to twelve months should tell us more. Stadium architects are working on plans. – Liepzig exemplary disabled access, are the board watching on that? Is there a way with away tickets Rangers could recognise mobility issues within the support? John Spiers – Accessibility is a great point, it is an issue we are seriously looking at also. Looking to develop 250 amenable seats straight from the lift at Ibrox. – Update on commission of Walter Smith statue? Robert Boyle – Well underway, working very closely with Smith family to ensure everything is correct. Well under way and proud of what has been done so far. – CF3 haven’t been updated or properly advised on potential moves. Greg Marshall – You will be front of the list, ideally the new spaces created by adding to front of Broomloan and Copland. James Bisgrove – Celtic allocation is not agreed yet, likely smaller allocation this season. Unlikely Celtic will ever get Broomloan back (Claps from fans), a long way to go on any changes. – Commerical strategy, impact to fans with MyGers, feels like a tax. How to we not alienate fans? James Bisgrove – Fine balance, don’t take support for granted. We got Champions League package wrong and we appreciate that. We want to get balance right. Natalie Nairn – On MyGers income, direct into the first team, ambition to reach 60k members this year. No perfect solution but context is 15000 applications for Aberdeen but we get less than 1000 tickets. Ticketing isn’t perfect but impossible situation. – Brand protection, what are we doing to protect our club reputation? James Bisgrove – Very fair question, have taken learnings from commercial deals that have went wrong. Paramount is protecting the brand. Financially NFT was great but ultimately we got it wrong, I understand that and don’t get everything right. – Commercial revenues have increased, is there in strategy for multi national sponsors for our brand but no big company attached? James Bisgrove – We should aspire to global blue chip brands, Seko, Cadburys, EA Sports are that but we constantly meet brands and travel the world to try and do that. Return on European stage, run to Seville has helped, new partners are coming on board. – Passion for 66 fans we lost in Ibrox disaster. Possible for memorial where it happened? John Spiers – We are working closely to develop the foot print and plans in place as part of that design. It’s a wee bit away but hugely important to us all. James Bisgrove – We are committed to that. Something staff and board are committed too. – Hospitality question, Will we be priced out in years to come? James Bisgrove – 5% increase but below inflation. What we want to do is make sure is there is something for everyone, don’t have immediate plans to increase beyond what we have done. – Major staff reshuffle, what stages are we at too make appointments? James Bisgrove – Right at start of Sporting director appointment. Close to announcing a new Director of academy and Finance director, as well as Women’s manager. Top calibre individuals and will be available to announce next 4-5 weeks. Commercial partnership growth question. James Bisgrove – Increase to partnerships is happening, especially with Hamburg. We are working hard with them. Rangers correction from this evening from club - To fill the complete corners of Ibrox (3000/4000 each corner) take away screens etc is a total cost of £20/£25m To partially refill and add 1300 each corner is £3-4m each corner. This is a mistake/mix up from tonight, apologies sent from club Blog tonight will change to reflect actual costs from update

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via Ibrox News | Jose Cifuentes has agreed to join Rangers after the Scottish Premiership side submitted a bid to Los Angeles FC, according to Tera Deportes journalist Alejandro Ruilova. The Ecuadorian midfielder has been linked with a switch to Ibrox throughout the transfer window as part of a shake-up by boss Michael Beale. It was reported by the Daily Record (21 June) that Rangers were attempting to agree a pre-contract deal with Cifuentes, who is

In a banana republic Mulholland would be in jail by now but in SNP-run Scotland we’re not as good as that

With an SNP government, I reckon Celtc have a good chance of getting off. Sad to say.

No...we are not BM's incubator. Tillman's development took pitch, and training (staff man hours) time away from players who could have grown WITH our team. We allowed ourselves the 'developmental league' treatment. Rangers disrespected themselves and their fans (lack of transparency) as that's a b**** move...full stop. I think this will become more evident when they turn and sell him for 8-10M to some schlub team in England or wherever in the short term. The team should never engage in that kind of deal as ultimately we do not grow. A million bucks...great...back to square one. Glad that Babe Ruth lookin Ahole Wilson has hit the road.

How fortunate for Chelsea all these Saudi clubs buying up their duds. Happy coincidence. Definitely not a Saudi influence at Chelsea being helped out by other Saudi influences. Modern football stinks.

It’s been a great loan for us because we’ve shown Bayern and other elite clubs that we can be trusted with their players and make them wanted across Europe. I hope we go back to Bayern for another loan.

gutted to miss out on him

We got a good player for a year, who helped get us into the CL and the cash rewards that come with it, now that he is not going to sign for us permanently we get a cash payment to soften the blow. I dont agree.

We still got cucked.

Without seeing the T&Cs we'll never know. It's more likely that Bayern have moved the goalposts. Anyhow, Wilson has gone, it appears Tillman isn't signing, it's time to move on from both. Onwards and upwards.

I see Graeme Souness completed his swim