Leaderboard

West Ham would have won the Champion's League by now had Di Canio not caught that ball... Richard Gough once ordered our players not to score against Hearts after they'd been reduced to 8 men in a match at Ibrox. When does the petition to strip him of his place in the Hall Of Fame begin? I could understand the anger this seems to be generating if we'd lost yesterday.

If Mick Beale thought it was the right thing to do then it was the right thing to do, not just because it cancelled out a goal but because of the message he's trying to send to players, fans and media alike that this is who we are. He has repeatedly spoken about the importance of creating an "identity" that everyone can share and this spoke volumes about who he wants us to be. Sure he took a chance but it was worth it. I can't share this "fuck em" philosophy, what Beale did was far more important and ultimately long lasting than Tillman's goal. Every one of our players is a little more engaged to this club today.

The View from the Gang Hut. Well, I suppose there are only so many Sellik Podcasters PQ can squeeze into a couple of weeks of broadcasting? Of course, some of those stick around and become employed and, get their official PQ CSC membership card. Amy Canavan was on A View from the Terrace earlier this season telling the lads her all time football highlight. Sitting down with her family to watch last season's Europa League cup final, she told of her excitement rising as she noticed Aaron Ramsey stepping up to take the next penalty for Rangers. She knew, her family knew, the world knew - they erupted, jumped up and, ran around the family home celebrating. The lads on the show joined in, punching the air amid gaping smiles. Remember BBC Scotland always supports the Scottish clubs in Europe? Normal service was resumed inside the Gang Hut, Off the Ball had Susie McCabe and Iona Fife as guests on Saturday. Gersnetters may or not be aware that Aberdeenshire born and bred traditional songstress, Iona Fife has had a few Twitter spats with Rangers supporters this last year? Iona has succeeded in raising her profile considerably on the back of these postings. Off the Ball were determined to get to the bottom of the spat and asked Iona to explain? Apparently, it is all politics and Rangers supporters are to blame. Susie was cooing with empathy. Iona finished with, "when I heard the Euro final result, I Tweeted have a nice day". Now, Tam is prone to ask, "we want to hear from Rangers supporters" but, not on Saturday. Susie's contribution was strange. She told of writing to 'Jim'll Fix It' pleading satisfaction on a burning desire to play furra Sellik. Then, she told of her wife's burning desire to be Hoopy the Huddle Hound. Sounds like another exclusive awaits Wings Over Scotland? This fascination with furry animals and nappies. Anyways, Susie is part of Comedy Glasgow and in promoting the event she was asked to recommend two other Comics? She offered Liam Farrelly from Paisley and Zoe Lyons. I will save you the time, they are fellow products of apartheid education.Increasingly, PQ are determined to support the beneficiaries of denominational schooling. The scripted part of the show arrived as Susie revealed ra Sellik's half term figures. RAB Cosgrove was cautionary, "that £60 million in the bank is subject to Corporation Tax". Iona piped up with, "football clubs should always pay their tax bills". RAB replies, "absolutely, that tax pays for our hospitals and schools". Susie cackled, she was in on the joke. Going off the script, Iona was asked if a number of well known songs were considered part of the Scots traditional cannon? RAB wanted to know about Matt McGinn's 'wee Effen Bee' and 'the Jeely piece Song'? Tam inquired of, 'the Green Fields of France'? Iona remained strident, "My Degree was in Scottish song" and, proceeded to make a clown of herself. She deemed Green Fields to be Irish and not Scots. Further, the Jeely piece was Scots because it was penned by Matt McGinn too. Of course, the Wee Effen Bee is in reality the BIG Effen Bee and, the Jeely Piece was penned by Adam McNaughton. As for the Green Fields, it was written by Peebles born and bred, Eric Bogle. Do not worry Iona, the Gang Hut will ensure your errors will be politically generated by Rangers supporters, they are to blame. On Sunday, Off the Ball had Hugh MacDonald as their guest for the hundredth time. The former Literary Editor of the Herald is a practitioner of careful hate these days. He is a regular along with Token Tam on Peter Martin's PLZ Soccer - you will always receive a point of view, ie ra Sellik point of view. A couple of decades past as Literary Editor he allowed his love furra Sellik to cloud his judgement. In a summary of the years books, he took a few paragraphs to praise a tome entitled, 'Not Playing for Celtic' by David Bennie. Hugh concluded it was a far better take on football club supporting than Nick Hornby's Fever Pitch. I requested my Library to find a copy? The book ticked Hugh's boxes, east end Protestant lad decides to support local club, the pull of a floodlight Paradise was too strong. He is befriended by a local Priest who uses his influence to gain access to a number of Retreats because the lad suffers from a skin condition. Bennie criticises Hornby's book because his support for Arsenal lacked emotional depth. I seem to remember in Fever Pitch, Hornby describes being put to bed on a school night by his single parent mother and, Arsenal had just gone into extra time in their League Cup semi against Stoke City. His maw left a note of the result for him getting up the next morning, one nil Stoke. Hornby remarked, "if my Mother really loved me, she should have changed that result". BIG emotion? RAB has entered his eighth decade and as such we receive regular health updates. He has been diagnosed with pneumonia in one lung and is being treated. Further, his blood results have revealed he is at the lowest risk for prostrate cancer. It is good to know that RAB can continue to get it up and nothing gets him more excited than spending a broadcast weekend organising the weekly 'get it right up the H-U-NS weekend'. On Sunday, twice he returned to the Green Brigade's latest banner - VAR Decision, Douglas Ross is a Cnut. RAB loved it, loves the balaclava bhoys. I have never voted Tory in my life but I recognise the Scottish Tory leader continues to put something back into the game we all love. When will PQ do the decent thing and invite one of the Green Brigade into the Gang Hut?

Since we're reading so much into this let's consider for a moment what might have happened had Beale ignored Thistle's protests and said 'play on, tough'. He'd have certainly created an angry and highly motivated opponent for a start. I expect more than one Thistle player might have fancied some old-fashioned retribution on Tillman too. The referee had already shown himself to be lenient when it came to Thistle, so quite what protection Tillman would have got we can only speculate about, but not much isn't a wild guess. That's before we even consider the off field reaction. Pressure for a replay in the manner of Arsenal a few years ago would have been doing the rounds by now not to mention the demonisation of Tillman. The more you look at it not only was it the right decision for reasons of sportsmanship, it was the pragmatic decision all round.

I don't see that much wrong with what Celtic did. It was Rangers' call to put the ball out for someone who just had cramp. I'd be livid if we had returned the ball in similar circumstances. Yesterday was slightly different as it wasn't last minute and the injury was caused by a clear stamp by a Thistle player and wasn't a potentially time-wasting ploy.

I wish footballers, in general, would stop kicking the ball out of play whenever someone goes down. It just encourages cheating.

I think Beale called this one right for Tillman's sake. He would have been hounded for ever more otherwise. Would I be saying the same if we'd lost the game? In all honesty no.

It wasn't done for their benefit but for ours.

Yes they did. He was probably 20 or more yards ahead of every other player - they got there in numbers not long after he was shoved to the ground.

We won and what we did will be talked about for decades world wide. I still see videos of Di Canio catchig the ball every year. The rest of Scotland fears Tillman and if we hadn't done this they would have used it to try and drive him out. As for what celtc did v us they were and are filthy cheats.

If Thistle wanted to give us the ball back they could have thrown it straight to us. Where exactly was the guy going to kick it after his second or third touch? To one of our players or out the park? Nobody can say for sure what his intentions were. What Rangers players were free at that point? Would Thistle have challenged us immediately? If Thistle want sporting then why didn't the take the player off who deliberately stamped on Tillman and play the game with 10 men? What would your opinion be if we were knocked out the cup because of it? Is it right only because it's Thistle? You say that you agree that it's disgraceful if he'd ordered it done against Celtic, but surely we as a club should be consistent and it's disrespectful to Thistle to gift them a goal because we look at them being weak. Tillman did nothing wrong and I'm still angry at Beale's decision.

Very one-sided report on the BBC website today where Tillman, the highest rated player got 5.7 down to Morelos' 3.99. PT highest 7.26 down to 6.36. You've got to laugh except then you realise some bigoted twat is stealing a wage that we are paying for.

It's a fairly difficult situation to analyse. Tillman did nothing wrong but, after the manager's explanation, I think Beale made the right choice. If nothing else it makes the club's usual critics want to self-combust however, if we'd gone on to lose that game, the manager would have come under immense pressure. In the end though, it worked out and we move on - hopefully with come credit in the back with the officials.

That is a bit extreme for you BD. Tillman, understandably misjudged a particular situation within the game and scored a (well taken) goal that really shouldn't have been scored. Beale takes the responsibility and takes a decision that I think, especially given context, is very much the right thing to do. Disagree, fine...but disgraceful, give me peace. Had it been in the League Cup Final, I would agree with you. Unless 9 goals to the good, in which case, it would actually add to the fun. Ps. Was at a game at Tynecastle (80's IIRC) when we as a support actually collectively applauded a Hearts goal (I think we had already reached 5).

And an in-form Morelos too though some may disagree. He gets in defenders faces.

It doesn't matter what other teams would or wouldn't have done in that situation. We set the barometer. Be proud of the fact we did the right thing and can hold ourselves to higher standards than others even if it isn't reciprocated.

I've always loved a good text book header

We're allowed to disgree with Gough's decision without the hysteria of wanting him stripped of his place in the Hall of Fame. Likewise, we're allowed to disagree with Beale's decision yesterday without it going any further.

As an addendum to this... Connor Goldson is absolutely captain material... at full time he basically rushed to Tillman's side so that he had protection should any of the Thistle player want "afters"

Personally I think Beale did the right thing. I am a "fuck everyone except Rangers" person myself but I also expect and want our club to operate with the highest standards possible. We still ran out winners but did so by acting with class and integrity. Tillman, to his defence, hadn't a clue what had happened as he was rolling around in agony from a stamp on his ankle when Colak put the ball out of play. What makes this instance more of a challenge to get the head around than the Leeds vs Villa one is that the Thistle player took an eternity to get the ball under control before looking to launch it to McGregor - but his intent to clear to our back line was clear. Think we did the right thing. Let the rest of Scottish football show how classless they are - I expect more of our club and I saw it yesterday in how this was handled.

From a couple of years back:

Second week in a row. The ref was dreadful. Totally different standard for the two teams.

I completely agree with this. His time is done.

Sorry. Corrected.

For a while there under GvB I was coming ambivalent whether Ryan Kent stayed or not but since Mick Beale arrived Kent has been transformed and I'm back to thinking we need to do everything we can to get his signature on a new contract.

KT wasn't quick enough to get there in the time needed....

Kevin Thomson would've 'blootered' someone before Tillman had even reached the deck. #JustSayin

A home draw? Why isn't this in The Conspiracy Box thread?

That's fair, Bluedell.

You've no idea how much pleasure I take from watching you make a complete clown of yourself over this issue ... so I thought I should let you know.

Whilst winning. OK.

I've read it a couple of times and that's all I could gather from your post. I don't get people who are so against what we did. They would be livid at anything like that if it happened against us, such a strange paradox.

Wait--I mean they should not go for an Australian. And definitely not one that is overweight.

Who we're playing or the final result shouldn't dictate how we react to a decision like the one Beale made yesterday. F*ck Partick Thistle and f*ck the Scottish press.

Apparently he's now no longer in contention. I think they should go for an Australian.

You're either implying that if Di Canio hadn't stopped the game then West Ham would have finished with silverware, or otherwise you have no point to make. Which is it?

Remind me of our results since Beale took over? Beale instructing our players to allow Thistle to score not only didn't affect the result of the match, it has literally no bearing at all on the next match, none whatsoever.

You murdered the straw man there. A very bad decision.

This.

What do we want to win? Some fairplay award for losers or the Scottish cup?

How long has he watched Scottish fitbaw !? Expecting a lower league player to control and position the ball with one touch is extreme optimism. Having watched it back, you can see he was getting ready to hoof it up the park and that other players were effectively still waiting on the real resumption of the game.

Not sure how much more space we're meant to give Thistle.

We are simply a poorer team without Kent.

Appears to be true. Almost unbelievable though. https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/ian-mccall-sacked-partick-thistle-26221905

and Dado