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And at a good age, with possible re-sale value. His injury history was, IMHO, a risk worth taking. I still felt that Souttar was brought in predominantly because the club thought Goldson wouldnt sign a new deal.

Instead of “The ‘Zero % Mission” I would rather Rangers just stopped promoting gambling altogether. No amount of sponsorship money justifies our club contributing to the human exploitation that flows from this miserable activity.

The opportunity is there for the manager to make significant improvements but this seems to go deeper than just selections and tactics.

I refuse to believe Tav is fit. He's not doing anything well defensively or going forward. To be fair, the whole team looks like its struggling fitness-wise. A focused Morelos would be good, but who knows which version of Morelos we're going to get anymore. I say "anymore", but we have this conversation every six months or so don't we?

Yeah it does make me think how much the two heavy defeats to Celtic and the meek performance at Ibrox v them have put him in a position where he has perhaps been harshly judged. The football isn't great at times but I've seen the same thing under McLeish and Smith especially which resulted in silverware. I also don't think he has been backed in the transfer market like he could have been with funds being directed elsewhere. Then there is injuries which seem to be as bad as I can remember for a long time. I'll admit I was deflated after we beat PSV and never brought in a player or two before the window closed. Its possible the manager and players felt the same and that's had an impact. I'm not ready for the scorched earth approach of getting rid of him right now and getting someone else in. I will be honest and admit I'm not confident we will win the league as things stand now. Even if we win on Saturday and they lose with us going top. If we get reinforcements in the door in January and players back fit that can change. I think he deserves the chance.

Looking forward to tonight's game with the opportunity to change things around somewhat for the manager - even if Dundee won't be here just to make up the numbers. I think the manager may use more of a 4-1-4-1 tonight and it will be interesting to see how bold he is with changes. I doubt he'll make as many changes in my graphic as Dundee are a step up from QotS in the last round. It may be the likes of McLaughlin, Tav, Steven Davis and Wright are preferred to retain a wee bit more experience. Yilmaz and Morelos surely start and will be good to see Roofe from the bench.

Th players may not want to “play for the manager” in which case, play for your wages and your own reputation. King and Lowry will probably go on to better places but the rest need to realise that for them, this is as good as it gets.

I thought the presser by Leon King was impressive. He conducts himself with composure for an 18 year old and hints at having the character to build a real future at Rangers. I hope he makes it.

Oh, that was Dundee? Thought it was Argentina 😀

I keep reading allusions to Tav’s fitness. Have considered the possibility his only problem is inside his head. Regardless, I’d be appointing a new captain in the morning.

Oh I agree, there is a real issue in that dressing room. I would much rather someone grew a pair and just spat it out, rather than continuing to mug the support of their hard earned cash. Might even be a boardroom issue, but I've completely stayed out of there since 2012. Took ages to get my blood pressure down after that debacle.

We started reasonable and it went downhill ever after. As if we wanted to emulate the weekend's dross and get down to their level. And much of that is down to our regulars who hardly ever showed up, be it Lundstram or Tavernier, who looked quite disinterested. Play like that next week and we'll get horsed. Bright notes: Ridvan did well enough, but wasn't picked out often enough. Wright and Sakala did their winger's job, and Roofe showed more in his few mins than Alfredo in his 73.

I have my first dental appointment in almost 3 years tomorrow. I fear the worst after as I have developed pain in my wisdom tooth. Saying that, I predict that it will be a more enjoyable experience than what I witnessed tonight.

Great play by Wright forces a save from the Dundee keeper who can only parry it for Davis to head in. Great play Wright.

Ryan Jack talks on new deal. Is that a wind up? If he were to stay fit and play well for the rest of the season, then there may be a conversation to be had, but now, just NO.

I don't know what this adds up to but it's at least mildly interesting.....

These reports from @elfideldo on Gersnet are a such valuable contribution. Greatly appreciated.

Bud had one thing in abundance .... commitment. I don't think I ever saw him give less than his all. Christ I wish you could bottle that and feed it to our current squad.

We have previous for it. Morelos eventually broke and was out for months.

That 2nd half performance was horrific - just can't see what the formation and tactics were. Thought Wright and Tillman were only 2 players who got pass marks tonight IMO.

A fit Roofe would add lots to our team. So would a focused Morelos to be fair.

Just wtf was that?

This is dire. How Lundstram and Tavernier keep getting selected is beyond understanding.

Technical term is PISH! this is not acceptable!!!!

We will win FA playing like this, everything is so slow and lethargic no urgency, keep playing the ball back the way.

Then recruit some that will generally be fit and able. Or start using the likes of McCann and McKinnon. If Jack were to prove fitness between now and I springtime, then maybe. The summer rebuild that never ever was #groundhog

*most

Not when you already have an injury prone central defender. Had this conversation with you after he signed. I'm not the type to say I told you so, let's leave it there.

Only stat that matters is first or second place.

I’d suggest the opposition (outside Celtic) much weaker today

That's why the Ajax match irked me so much. If you can't fully apply yourself in your first CL (proper) match then you have to wonder what the point is!?

So do ours but without the intensity and without the rewards intensity brings.

Gerry Adams has a full head of hair.

They murdered innocent people. There's no getting away from that.

My report on the U18's friendly against London's Cre8tive Academy https://rfcyouths.wordpress.com/2022/10/18/15215/

Exactly. Utter madness.

One for @compo, @Scott7and @26th of footamongst others....

All this xG and other stats are bolloks as far as I am concened a team playing a better game and getting beat is the end result.