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Griffiths is the personification of all things yahoo, isn't he. Criminal record - check. Sexual deviancy - check. Looks dodgy - check. Plays the victim - check.

Bears moaning and arguing after four wins in a row. Some things never change.

Never said he was un-droppable, no player is. There is no reason to suggest Patterson who'd be any better defensively or offensively than Tav so replacing one with another is a gamble. Are you suggesting Patterson wouldn't have any bad games? Is that based on any evidence. Tav is our longest serving Captain since Richard Gough. He has consistently delivered for Rangers, never hidden, very rarely been injured and his stats are on a other planet. Just our luck that the (potentially) best product out of our academy since Barry Ferguson plays the same position as our club captain and most potent player in our team. Also, can never get my head round those who don't see Tavs importance to the team.

I think the new manager GVB has made a very good start indeed. But as I see it he’s still very much assessing the squad he’s inherited. Some,such as Arfield, he clearly feels should be more involved than his predecessor thought. And others may be less involved as he maybe looks to replace them. An immediate concern for him however will be the CB’s where SG left us hopelessly short iMO. Balougen and Helander are currently injured leaving only Goldson as the only fit recognised first team CB. This will need sorted out next month. Both Goldson & Balougen’s contracts expire at the end of this season. Will he try to offload them in January? And does he have replacements identified ? We don’t know In fact a lot of things are now up in the air. My own view is we lost a manager & replaced him with a better manager.

Where have I stuck my head in the sand? I want the 1st team squad to be the best we can afford without putting us in financial trouble. You contradict yourself - the only way to get annual CL money is to be better than Celtic. If we aren't, we won't win the league so don't understand your arguement. Admitting we are miles away from being CL material isn't sticking head in sand, it's being realistic. Understanding the restraints we are working under whilst trying to be the best we can be isn't sticking my head in the sand, it's being realistic. We have progressed every year since SG was appointed and have gotten European football on a yearly basis. We won the league last year gaining record points for us and blowing so many other records out the water. We were never going to repeat that, that's not sticking my head in the sand, it's being realistic. I said when Gio was being touted as the new manager that this may turn out to be an upgrade. How's that sticking my head in the sand? As a fan its easy to criticise in fact in this age of social media it's almost a prerequisite. We want everything and we want it now. To win every game, to win it 4 or 5 nil, to win every cup including the CL. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. That's not sticking my head in the sand, it's being realistic. As my old Granddad used to say, you can only pee with the Willy you've got (well that's the cleaned up version).

As always with playing staff, there will be a regular turnover. There's no way there'll be wholesale changes in January or next Summer. We'll sell some, keep some and bring new players in. We've looked good under GvB. Calm heads and patience are required, albeit the last one is always in short supply amongst our support. We've won four in a row, are top of the league and have qualified for EL knock out rounds again.

He didn't have an assist or a goal yesterday either so maybe you are on to something. Time he was dropped and stripped of the captaincy.

We'd have given a lot to have this team a few years ago .... McLaughlin Patterson - Goldson - Simpson - Bassey Lundstram - Jack - Bacuna Wright - Roofe - Defoe

We should play all our decent fringe players on thursday and rest as many as possible for Hearts. Lundstrum, Sakala, Roofe, Wright and Patterson should all start at very least.

Why rest or drop the league's most potent offensive threat? Makes no sense whatsoever.

Created our own downfall with some crazy mistakes. Who told Mendy he didnt have to put the ball in row Z and also fall asleep?

Still can't believe the (lack of) reaction to Furuhashi's outlandish theatrics.

Guaranteed 5-0 win for Nonce FC now you've posted that.

Dropping Kent and Davis was fairly bold management, and it worked so credit for that. Also thought it was interesting he left Morelos on after he was booked and the game was won. I can't decide if GVB simply doesn't know his past and how he's refereed differently to others or if he simply has more faith in his professionalism than I do. That was a Dundee side in good form going into the match made to look very poor. I can't claim to be a master tactician but even I can spot the difference in what's expected from our full backs since GVB took control. So much of our attacking play under Gerrard came from our full-backs, they were often our furthest forward players. I felt other clubs were starting to nullify that threat more, they'd figured out how to play us. The last couple of matches has seen a subtle change there, with Tav and Barasic still venturing forward but not all the time and as an addition to the attack, not its mainstay. So far it's worked, I think both Livi and Dundee would have caused us more problems had Gerrard still been in charge, we were huffing and puffing against those types of sides earlier in the season. Interestingly I think Barasic has benefited from this change, but Tav seems more subdued. Everyone played well but I thought Arfield was man of the match. I felt he worked exceptionally hard and his running and attacking created space for others to exploit. That said another 3 or 4 were also excellent so I've no complaints with Aribo winning the official award. A 1-0 win for Dundee Utd today would see us go level on goal difference with the team in second place, it seems only a few weeks ago they were miles ahead on that measurement. Overall you have to give enormous credit to the board and Ross Wilson as well as to Gio and his staff and indeed the players, for the almost seamless transition of management team. I'm not sure all of us fully appreciate how seismic our entire first team management team walking out on mass must have been.

And some fantastic saves to be fair

The law applies only to us. Not to them. welcome to SNP Scotland 2021. A dangerous wee place.

That fellow who has taken over at Aston Villa has certainly hit the ground running.

You want players dropped and / or sold just for the hell of it then? Or is it simply that you don't like / rate them..... To be serious in CL we'd need to spend millions we don't have SG never looked at the academy - really? Bassey promoted from the academy and now in 1st team squad. Patterson promoted from the academy and now in first team squad. Who gave King, Mayo and Kelly their debuts for Rangers and had them around 1st team and played them pre-season? Who played McCorrie in goal at 1st Old Firm of the season and in EL? Have you seen much of Kelly, Mayo and King, or any of our B / youth players? Do you know how they perform in training on a daily basis? I've watched Kelly, Mayo and King in B Team and whilst they look promising, they look no more promising than say Wilson, Bates and Ross McCorrie. Wilson attracted serious attention after establishing himself in our 1st team and got a fantastic move to Liverpool. Wonder what he's up to these days? The other two are currently "starring" for Aberdeen which is probably a level above where they ought to be.

There are plenty occasions when he defend like a winger too. Excellent in attack, average at best in defence.

You are probably right. Club legend Di Matteo won the champions league then 10 games into the season they sacked him !! Nobody is safe!!

Between aribo kamara kent and hagi I think we will lose at least 2 of them in the next transfer window. But they wont be leaving for nothing. Kent especially as I think he would have taken gerrard leaving the hardest. Gio needs funds to build his team and some will have to leave to fund his ambitions.

Given the markets we shop in, I think it would take a deity or a magician to get us competing at CL level. Best we can hope for is a decent draw and a bit of luck.

Yeah good luck with that. Hes got the tools to win the league. Nothing else.

If I had to pick three that would make is money ; Alfie, either of the right backs and Goldson if he doesn't sign a new contract. #anyonebarbarker

It was claimed at AGM we don't need to sell players in January and that the funding to get us to summer was now in place. However, I fully accept that players will leave as Gio will want to bring in some fresh faces .

Barisic was good yesterday, but I wouldn't mind getting some money for him.

That's a reasonable position to hold; one that I am sympathetic to. I made the same point in the post: I would like to see Patterson get games ahead of Tavernier in the odd, 'easy' game, like yesterday. However, you ruined it with your nota bene. He's a Full-back; his stats for a FB is outstanding.

And an opinion that clearly clouds your judgement of the player. BTW it is OK to change your opinion

So even when having a "stinker", Tav still contributes offensively and therefore helps get wins or draws? Not a bad trait to have. I'd have a player like that in my team every day of the week..... oh, wait......

He can only play players registered in the Europa League squad, so there will be changes but not wholesale changes.

Most ludicrous thing I've read on a forum in years (and that's saying something). Have you even watched us over the last 2 or 3 season? Or listened to players and managers (including Patterson) saying how Tav is a huge influence and a leader.

GvB has used Patterson more than SG ever did, simply because the formation allows it. Patterson has come on twice in more advanced positions to 'shut up shop'. However, he's not dropped Tavernier to do so, which suggests GvB recognises Tavernier's importance. I wouldn't be dropping Tavernier any time soon, but I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Patterson get the nod in some games to give Tavernier a rest -- yesterday's game was probably a good opportunity.

It will depend on who actually watches the pictures. Given how Madden and Co. time and again blatantly get decisions wrong, yet bravely soldier on as top tier referees and linesmen, what can we expect from de facto other Scottish referees sitting behind the screens. Name and shame more of them, of course, but would that change anything? Wee sidenote, the linesman at the Scumhut that gave TJC`s goal is said to be a former Scumhut ST holder, who is no stranger to controversial decisions.

If Gio can "drop" Kent and Davis to reduce their workload, so too can we "drop" Tavernier. There is no indication that Patterson cannot defend "any worse" than Tav nor cross and attack like the Tav. So why not give the lad a a chance in games such like yesterday? All Premiership sides know how what Tav will do and how he plays and how to get him caught out. Why not mix that up with a different player ... who - in addition - has Patterson`s ability?! NB: Was it just me or did Muir blow the whistle after exactly 93. mins when he gave 4 mins of extra time?

Mendy has been a bit erratic in recent games, going by the Chelsea form book Tuchel is five more defeats from the old heave ho 😂

Agreed. Them dropping two points would be fine by me. Can't see it though.

Agreed. I really feel that Ross Wilson will be our best piece of business over the last few years. He is an impressive individual.

The form of so many have improved. Mcgregor, goldson, barasic, Morelos are just some Arfield should be playing a lot for us he is such a good all round player.

Souttar's contract at Hearts is nearly up; think we could get him on a pre-contract? When Helander returns we then only have to worry about back-ups.

The Dundee keeper had a really good game

Another perfectly satisfactory win. The last Rangers manager to win his first four matches was Willie Waddell. I'm starting to think Aston Villa have done us a favour.

I actually thought Alfie and Sakala linked really well today. Agree about big Helander though, we could do with him back for bigger tests on the horizon.

No he wasn't. Heart of a lion that lad.

A couple of weeks past saw the passing of a true Hilton Glasgow legend and a good pal to a few of us on this site. The diminutive Jimmy Miller was in all honesty a giant of a man. None who knew him ever saw him without a smile. The warmth of his genuine hospitality radiated from thousands of breakfast services over many, many years at one of Glasgow's biggest hotels. For myself, @ian1964, @johnnyk, @Pete1984 and a few more of our Tranent pals, we met Jimmy ten years or so ago through pre-match drinks at the Neptune and quickly became good friends with him and his auld chum Ian. Right through dreadful times for our club, Jimmy kept all our spirits up with tales of his work at the hotel and which celebrity he'd 'looked after' that week. Rarely did you leave for Ibrox every other Saturday without sore ribs from laughing at the wee fella's tall tales! Many other Rangers fans will also know Jimmy from the Neptune and his friendships with famous players past and present, including Sir Alex Ferguson who, in recent years, often invited Jimmy down to Old Trafford to reciprocate his hospitality. Jimmy will be laid to rest at 12noon on Saturday 20th November at Daldowie Crematorium followed by a a meet up of friends and family at the Hilton Glasgow. All welcome! We will miss him but hold only fond memories. Smile when you think of him. All our thoughts at Gersnet are with his wife and family.