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seems to be lucky for us and a jinx for celtc.

If these gestures help even the slightest bit in eradicating the scourge of racism from our game and society at large, then carry on doing it. If those most affected by racism in our society feel this is helping, then keep on with the message. id happily give up the ridiculous line-up and shaking hands between players and continue with anti racism messages.

Given that I could get some nice cedar wood 21mm x 65mmx 2.1m for about 40 pounds and that should support the fattest arse where do the council get their prices from , and did they send a bill to the BLM mob when they defaced the statues in the same square plus damage to the floral memorial tribute in front of the cenotaph.

Certainly shouldn't cost that much. Advertise your funding and it will.

Again I say if the players want to do it by all means fine,but the media should stop ramming it down our throats,IMHO.

I can find cases in that period where he acted on both sides, so it seems that he just returned to being a QC.

There’s a certain choreography to it now. Zaha is right. The players are on the pitch to work, not to express political views no matter how worthy.

should be up to the players. For me it has lost all meaning and become mundane but they may well feel different. They sure have my support whatever they decide.

It's part of the matchday routine now. Castore should think about bringing out some knee-pads and when we get back to games, we can all join in.

As long as our players want to continue with it, I'll support them and if they want to ditch it, I'll also support then. Racism is still an issue, arguments could be if taking the knee is the correct way to tackle racism in football and wider society. This is a decision for the players and management to make.

From memory and this was before lockdown plenty of these benches were on their last legs some had slats missing others cracked or broken , no give the council eff all .

No more, I expect: there isn't even honour among thieves, these days.

The difference is that Rangers' supporters offered to pay for restitution of the damage.

Some people who are offended by the knee have their reasons to be offended, reasons that don't mean that they are racist in any way shape or form. It doesn't bother me as to me it lost its impetus a long time ago and has become just a ritual that takes place prior to kick off. The one thing throughout this epidemic i'm thankful for is the fact that this kneeling is taking place with no fans present because i know some fans who would have boo'd at the very beginning which may have had a negative effect on some of our players performances.

It’s probably different in modern, corporate, career-path days but in the long ago, it was normal for high-flying members of the Faculty of Advocates to take time away from private practice to do a turn as Advocate-depute in the Crown Office for a few years before going back to gold mining. It was seen as a sort of honourable thing for a decent chap to do.

I think he can check the cost breakdown, if any, but I think that he will have to pony up. To cavil would be more bad publicity.

I don't have an issue with general shows of support of anti-racism, but I am against ones that support an organisation like Black Lives Matter due to their political and anti-police leanings. If players don't support the extremist views of BLM then I believe that they should find another way of showing support for anti-racism. I find the argument that taking the knee is a gesture that now goes beyond BLM as a lazy one. How do those doing it know how it's being interpreted?

I don't know. They don't look to be of earth shattering import, but I stand to be corrected.

I wonder what the Wolves goalie's lawyers will think of this. It was a relatively close decision.

That's outdated terminology. It's People Of Colour (POC) or Black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME).

Half our team are black men, I don't think anyone is forcing anyone to do it, it's a show of solidarity.

"Rangers fans who celebrated their first league title in a decade at illegal parties have tested positive for coronavirus and may be spreading it throughout Scotland, the chief medical officer has warned. Coronavirus cases are rising again in Glasgow and Lanarkshire, one week after thousands of Rangers fans broke the law by holding an impromptu street party in George Square. Some subsequently tested positive for Covid-19 and admitted to contact tracers they were at the rally or held house parties, which are also illegal under coronavirus restrictions." There are parties going on all over the country every weekend, aren't they worthy of the Chief Medical Officer's attention? By the governments own estimate's a pretty significant percentage of the population aren't abiding by the rules (I can't remember the exact figure but it was mentioned on the news a while ago). Many young folk in their teens and 20s just want to live their lives and aren't staying in.

Are the guys who have collected the cash in a position to verify/audit the Council's account? I suspect not, and in the circumstances, are not really in a position to quibble. And now, the SNP Administration can showboat and claim that "Rangers' supporters" caused over £10 000s worth of damage to George Square. A bit of an own goal, really.

beacus 5 benches and some plants hardly cost 10k and it is charities being robbed here not fans.

So Mrs Wolffe, gave advice (Opinion, I assume) on the matter of TicketUs, a Civil case, to Clarke and Whitehouse (Duff and Phelps) as Administrators of Rangers, in 2012. Is there a problem here? Mrs Wolffe, as a practising Advocate, would have uttered hundreds of Opinions on matters various. Is the fact that she advised D&P, in a Civil matter, in any way significant? Should Mr Wolffe have to check his wife's files for every case, on the off chance that she had represented the defendant(s) or offered advice to them? Would there be the matter of privileged information to consider, also, particularly if one wished to demonstrate the relevance of that past advice to a current case? Or am I missing something? What I am missing is what Mr Wolffe was doing between 2010 and 2016. From the potted biography, it seems that he was an Advocate Depute, in the Crown Office, until 2010, and he became Lord Advocate in 2016. A lacuna, as they say in legal circles. What would be interesting to know, is whether, in this time, Mr Wolffe was involved, in any way, in the malicious prosecution of Clarke and Whitehouse, under Lord Advocate Mulholland. Wolffe was very quick to fold his hand, when called by them. The fact that Mrs Wolffe, by then a Judge, was slated to preside over a case in which Clarke and Whitehouse pursued Mr Wolffe, by then Lord Advocate, is totally ludicrous, and worthy of Messrs Gilbert and Sullivan, whose audience would laugh at it. However, it reads as, at least vaguely, sinister, and should not have happened. Fortunately, it was headed off at the pass. We still need a thorough, formal, investigation.

Ha!

Unfortunately, the overall ranking affects our position in any of the competitions so it is important. Yes, we all enjoy Celtic or Aberdeen or Hibs or whoever else making a mess of their games but, if we truly want our club to improve it's reputation and quality, then we need everyone to pull their weight to ensure the ranking is as high as possible. Anything else is cutting off our nose to spite our face.

Maybe this thread can be moved to the lounge now it is no longer talking about Rangers?.

Rangers won't make any player do this as it will be entirely up to the individual. There is an argument the gesture is fairly inconsequential but these things are a personal choice so I'm not going to criticise anyone for their decision, either way.

Big bad rangers fans again,was there no spikes after other mass gatherings e.g. BLM,Scottish Cup final,Parkhead protests ETC>,or is it only Rangers fans that carry the risk. It might be that after destroying the scum we are now destroying Nippies political aims.

No one has to kneel, plenty of rugbyists never took the knee and it never caused any issues, it's entirely down to personal choice. It was a powerful message at first, at least in American football, but the issue is that it just becomes something we do, and as such is potentially rather ineffective. I have no issue with our players doing it or not doing it, much like one of our players showing any political or religious message, we are a broad, welcoming kirk.

Yes, against the perpetrators, in this case armies, navies, factories, railways, ports etc, or if it will bring the war to a quicker end (eg Hiroshima, which ultimately saved lives). Not against civilians. It is legitimate to bomb cities where there is a strategic target. If there is not, as in the case of Leipzig, then it is an act of terror, deliberately intending to traumatise the civilian population. The Harris case is complex and the arguments for or against have been debated by historians, some in favour, some not, but "they started it" is not a legitimate justification when it comes to the possibility of war crimes. As I already mentioned, Winston Churchill was horrified at these bombings. That said, I have really enjoyed the "bombing" of the guilty parties and vindictive haters in Bluedell's poem, especially those paricular clubs who actually wanted to literally destroy us. They have certainly reaped what they sowed

Pay more attention. The players are clearly very happy to do this. I'm not asking the players to make this gesture. I'll leave it up to them to decide to continue or stop. If kneeling upsets some people then I really hope that it continues.

That was the week that was. I am just old enough to remember BBC broadcasting, 'that was the week that was'. It was mid-sixties grainy black and white TV. Ned Sherrin created it, David Frost hosted, and an army of household names wrote the satire. John Cleese, Peter Cook, Dennis Potter, Roald Dahl, Bill Oddie, Erik Sykes, Denis Norden, Frank Muir, ......... etc. Even as a Primary schoolboy, I got the ridicule reserved for Apartheid, the class system, the racism of the American deep south, and all involved in domestic politics. The only part of the show that irked arrived at the conclusion, Millicent Martin sand a topical song in a cool jazz style. The show was the pre-cursor for the next quarter of a century of TV/Radio satirical shows. The Frost Report to Spitting Image and everything in between, owe their existence to 'that was the week that was'. Peter Cook launched the satirical magazine, 'Private Eye' on the back of the show, a case of mutual support. Further, Cook also had a nightclub , 'the Establishment' for several years, predicated on the growing sense of ridiculous. Everyday phrases such as, "tired and emotional" and "Ugandan affairs" emanate from the show. Our attention was drawn to MPs' expenses scandals, conflicts of interest, and their abilities to evade the revolving door. In new, modern Scotland we have no satire. Most Journos and commentators are cheerleaders for the current Scottish Government. Principles mean nothing to professional politicians, no one resigns because their considerable lifestyles won't allow it. As for comedians, Janey Godley is the epitome, does regular voiceovers of the First Minister's speeches and Angela Haggerty's one year old son, Francis; and is duly rewarded with a weekly column in the Herald. No doubt, her daughter, the privately educated Ashley Storrie will be a nepotistic beneficiary? This is the new, modern Scotland of entitlement, privilege, and woke sensitivities. This time last week, the newspaper front pages and broadcast current affairs shows were still being dominated by the fall out from Salmond's trial on sexual misconduct. Another two SNP MPs were subject to further charges of sexual misconduct, Chief Whip Patrick Grady and one other, as yet unnamed. The Holyrood Inquiry into Salmond had just been stymied by the First Minister's 8 hours of, "I don't know", "I can't recall and, "I would have to check my Diary". Nicola's husband and SNP Chief Executive these last 20 years, Peter Murrell was desperately seeking a case of, 'Events dear boy, events'? It arrived, courtesy of ra Sellik's inability to notch a goal at Tannadice. Rangers had won their first Premiership title in a decade. Rockets flew, fireworks exploded, and joy took to the square. Such detonation lit the fuse for the pile on. BBC Scotland deployed Sports Correspondent, Chris McLaughlin. He worked the leverage of UEFA. Creepy's brother told of watching eyes and the very real threat(in his fevered thought) of cancelation of Hampden's involvement in the upcoming Euros. Gary Robertson led the current affairs onslaught, every politician was asked, "have Rangers done enough"? Glasgow was under siege, Rangers supporters had prevented Nurses getting home after their shifts, Rangers supporters had prevented the homeless accessing the soup kitchen, and Rangers supporters had vandalised memorial benches in George Square. In three days, from Monday to Wednesday, BBC Scotland dedicated comment and phone-ins entirely to Rangers supporters' excess. Momentum was needed, feed the fire and the FM stepped forward, expressing her anger and anguish. John Swinney pointed the finger, Rangers were to blame. Humza Yousaf agreed with the Dear Leader, Rangers were found wanting and he Hectored a senior Polis Officer into adding his signature to a condemnatory letter. Despite video evidence twice showing other channel commentators in Edmiston Drive being drowned out by a bellowing Ibrox PA asking supporters to return home, Rangers did nothing. More momentum needed. SNP controlled Glasgow City Council utilised their PRO, Gerry Braiden's contacts at his old blatt, and Catriona Stewart et al delivered a seven page expose on events. Sellik could not see green cheese, they screamed, 'we're half of nothing' and warned next Sunday's old firm game could be called off by the authorities. Stuart Cosgrove and Professor Eamonn O'Neill hosted their Podcast with Angela Haggerty as guest. The conclusion, Rangers supporters behave the way they do, because of entitlement. Oh, and a wee bit of satire, they liked Police Scotland's statement, "we are the people"? A whole week and Salmond's name has disappeared. Derek MacKay MSP must be wondering why the "h-u-ns and typical orange wankers" did not ride to his rescue? Anyways, Rangers must wise up, when an election is pending we cannot present ourselves as targets. There is a truth, the Nats like nothing better than being seen to be sinking the boot into Rangers and Rangers supporters. It's their preferred good look. It's a lesson we must learn, the football is a tactic and the football does not matter. The trumping strategy is condemnation of a majority of Bears celebrating with Union Flags. Oh, the hatred? The national broadcaster is determined that Rangers will never be portrayed as bringing anything good to Scottish life. We do not carry the standard, we do not improve the coefficient and the nation cannot be beneficiaries of any Rangers effort. Rangers securing the title has been the unifying force for the Scottish Government, BBC Scotland, Glasgow City Council and ra Sellik. Yesterday, Cosgrove summed it up, "If I complain about the actions of Rangers supporters in George Square knowing fellow Saints fans gathered at McDairmid to celebrate the League Cup win, then it's whataboutery. They don't get it, people with no interest in football see what happened in George Square, it's a disgrace". That was the week that was sans satire. It is fitting Cosgrove has the last words. He puts out considerable effort in self portrayal, a loner liking nothing better than sitting down to read. In his occasional garrulous moments he betrays daily relations with Angela Haggerty, Kevin McKenna, Gerry Braiden, Eamonn O'Neill, .... etc. This week and incidents like the IRA murder of fellow Journo, Lyra McKee highlights his absolute adherence to separate development. Stuart speaks with all the confidence of a supporter of Scotland's second most successful team in the last decade and he knows BBC Scotland will never tire of relating that fact. PS. A couple of bon mots from last week. Firstly, it's Friday evening and Michael Stewart is in the Sportsound studio with Ricky Foster. The Host offers his weekly man of the week nomination. Three names : 1. Steven Gerrard winning the title and favourite to lead Rangers into the Europa Cup last eight. Undefeated in both tournaments so far. 2. Alan McGregor only conceding nine goals in 32 league games and that save against Slavia. 3. Derek McInnes for enduring 8 seasons at Pittodrie and winning a League Cup. Ricky Foster cannot decide between Gerrard and McGregor but settles on Greegs. Michael chooses McInnes, no doubt because of biomechanics? Secondly, Friday night and it's The View from the Terrace. Now, five regulars appear on this hour long TV show. Craig Telfer(Stenhousemuir) hosts, three others, Craig Fowler(Hearts), Joel Sked(Hearts) and, Shaughan McGuigan(Raith Rovers) discuss and Robert Borthwick(Hearts) handles the social media content. I enjoy the show, they don't miss us when deserved, but happily they stick it on ra Sellik just as often. Generally, they know football, particularly lower Division stuff. Anyways, they are praising Rangers Culture's social media work last week, listing all the detractors one by one this last decade and ripping them eg Spiers and the "quietly terrified" quip. Shaughan McGuigan offers, "Ah love it, they've nailed every Celtic supporter from Rod Stewart to Jim Spence"(Jum's Tweet : "Celtic signing Shane Duffy has secured ten-in-a-row"). Satire Shaughan, satire. That was the week that was.

Nothing will change with the BBC in general until the licence fee is scrapped and they are forced to go out into the real commercial world for their revenue like all other broadcasters have to do. That revenue will be dependent on audience figures so puerile broadcasts such as Sportsound & Sportscene with their agendas & opinionated presenters will be binned before long. Regards this ongoing ‘dispute’ all that’s required is for the BBC to send someone other than McLaughlin. The club must not give an inch on this.

We still pass our brown envelopes to Frankie on a regular basis.