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I watched them in the late 40s, 50s and 60s before moving to Australia in 66. My top 3 Rangers players from those days Baxter, Henderson and Woodburn. These three would not have been out of place in any team, pure class the three of them. Black socks red tops every day of the week for me.

It's becoming clear UEFA see these fines as a source of revenue. No fans and they are still dishing them out. No wonder clubs want to end them. Sooner the better.

My first game was September'63, a 0-5 victory at Cathkin Park against Third Lanarkshire Volunteers. My first visit to Ibrox was early December'63, we defeated Dundee United 3-2. My first European game was at Ibrox, September'64 we defeated Red Star Belgrade 3-1. My first Cup final was the '66 Scottish Cup final replay, we won 1-0 against ra Sellik. King Kai scored a raker. My first Euro' campaign was 66-67, I attended all four European Cup Winners Cup games at Ibrox. Glentoran, Borussia Dortmund(the then holders), Real Zaragoza, and Slavia Sofia. The strip change came at the start of '68-'69 season. The first home game was a pre-season friendly against Arsenal, a 2-2 draw. Scot Symon had been sacked, Davie Whyte appointed and the perceived wisdom was the change was part of the on-going modernisation of Rangers. In those days, it was the home side that changed in the event of a clash of colours. When Dundee and St Johnstone arrived, we were replete in red jerseys and blue socks with white tops. The game I remember most in the 60s was a pre-season game at Ibrox in '67, Eintracht Frankfurt had battered us in the '61 European Cup semi-final, they lost 7-2 in turn to Real Madrid in the Hampden final. My grandfather and old man thought our 5-3 victory over the Germans was to be a harbinger of the season coming. I was ten and believed them. Still, over 80,000 squeezed into Ibrox to witness our bit of revenge.

My Dad did, and still does, if that helps any - also played in same school team as Rangers play Dennis Setterington (Bo'ness Academy)

Picked up from elsewhere. “Scotland’s 5 games before Jack played - won 1, Drew 0, Lost 4. Scored 7, Conceded 13. 7 games jack played. Won 6, Drew 1, Lost 0. Scored 9, Conceded 4." Rangers have shipped 3 goals this season, 2 v Hibs and 1 v Motherwell. Jack did not play in either of these games.” I have have an inkling @Bill will like this one.

I wonder how many clubs get fined after each game that UEFA organise looks to me that someone is running a nice little earner ?

When you and Bluedell got married which one of you was the bride? To be fair I'm sure you both look good in blue, everyone does.

In case you haven't seen it, Super Ally at his best.

Although I pranced about in a kilt many times myself when younger, I eventually reached a stage when it dawned on me how fatuous it was to wear a clown's outfit invented by a Lancastrian and popularised by a royal German fantasist and pretend it somehow made me look "Scottish". Skean dhu, silver sporran, brogues laced up your legs, frilly shirt, daft jacket - pure numptiness. No wonder we struggle with identity in Scotland. That said, I do like a bit of tartan on the stairs. Just not in-your-face blue.

My Sweepie prefers the original tartan.

Thanks @CammyF @Blue Haven Blue and @26th of foot. They do a time capsule podcast. The host invites another fan on to share memories of a match from the past. I think it's really good but there is a shortage of contributions from before the seventies. They were asking for people who could contribute something from the sixties. If you think you could help then please contact them. https://heartandhand.co.uk/

No one wants to pour cold water on an achievement, however minor but it's hard not to comment on the general reaction to this qualification. Much of it is so far over the top as to be cringeworthy. I don't think I've seen a news bulletin since the game that would be out of place if we'd actually won the tournament. It simply confirms the neediness of a country that long ago swapped self-confidence for whining victimhood. For me, the first sign of something worthy of celebration will be when we attend one of these finals and get beyond the group stages, instead of the usual cannon-fodder failure we've thankfully been excused from for 22 years. Maybe this time. Maybe it would be better to keep our powder dryish.

David Grier wasn't "the enemy within" that particular sobriquet belonged to Donald Muir. I was present at the High Court in Aberdeen when it was first revealed that the Fiscal had ordered the raids on the defendants solicitors offices and removed all the defence files. I initially thought I misheard but it soon it became clear I hadn't. There was never ever any possibility of a successful prosecution after that revelation, the Keystone Cops could not have mounted a more inept investigation and prosecution.

Is it not a reference to Blofeld? (Not Henry, of course; perish the thought!)

Since you mention an assassin, is your new avatar a distant relation of Tiger Shaw?

That's possible, but the e mails, as far as I know, refer to the Rangers' tax case/take over/ administration/liquidation/subsequent takeover/etc. It is possible, also, that the e mails expose the person who actually slid the stiletto between the ribs of the body corporate, in those last days of the Murray Empire.

Mr David Grier; remember him? If memory serves, he was called "The Enemy Within", and represented the Bank (BoS/HBoS/LBG whichever it was) on the Board. Now, the poor fellow is suing The Polis for £2M. "The £nemy Within" would have been a more appropriate appellation. However, in the current case, his second (do keep up) tilt at the public purse, he reveals that he was the subject of a 'blackmail' attempt, which used e mails hacked from the account of Mr Craig Whyte (and whoever doesn't remember him is a liar). Grier's Silk stated that Grier "...was contacted by somebody who wanted a sum of cash from him in return of non-disclosure of information." I need some help. I have watched any number of classic noir, in B & W, neo noir, and the rest; I have read pulp, and noir, and scandi noir, tartan noir, and neo noir; I have read Chandler backwards; I have never come across a plot where the victim of blackmail or extortion, is, in the first instance , or in the final analysis, the clean tottie, as pure as the driven snow. I mean, why would anyone even think about blackmailing a paragon of probity? I noted this, too, from the report "Lord Tyre ordered that the police hand over the documents and information being sought by Mr Smith." Perhaps The Learned Justice's attention could be directed to the current SNP/Salmond/Sturgeon/Scottish Parliamentary Committeee/etc imbroglio over availability of evidence in the Salmond Sex Trial Fallout hearings. (On another note, will we see Mr Salmond pursue the Crown for 'malicious prosecution', and a substantial wedge? After all, It seems to be like buying money.) Expert arrested in Rangers case ‘hit by blackmail plot’ James Mulholland Saturday November 14 2020, 12.01am, The Times Football A business expert arrested during a Rangers fraud investigation was the victim of a blackmail plot using information that had allegedly been hacked from a former owner’s emails, a court heard. David Grier had been contacted by an “individual” who tried to obtain money from him, his lawyer, Advocate Andrew Smith, QC, said. Mr Smith told the judge, Lord Tyre, that the attempt took place after Mr Grier had been arrested by detectives investigating claims of wrongdoing at the football club. Mr Smith was speaking during a second action which has been raised by Mr Grier. In the latest proceedings, Mr Grier is suing the chief constable of Police Scotland for acting unlawfully when he was arrested during an investigation into wrongdoing at Rangers. He is seeking £2 million in damages from the force. Mr Grier, who has been cleared of any criminal wrongdoing, is also suing the lord advocate, claiming that prosecutors had no evidence to justify him being arrested and charged. Mr Smith said the blackmail attempt had been made using information obtained from an email database. The cache, which is said to hold 100,000 emails, contains information from emails belonging to the former Rangers owner Craig Whyte, the Court of Session was told. Material from the cache had been posted on Twitter in 2013 by an account called Charlotte Fakes. In a previous hearing, Mr Smith said that the emails had been obtained unlawfully though hacking Mr Whyte’s email account. Yesterday, Mr Smith said Mr Grier had told Detective Chief Inspector Jim Robertson, the senior police officer who led the Rangers fraud investigation, about the blackmail attempt. Mr Smith spoke moments after Gerry Moynihan, QC, the lawyer acting for the lord advocate, told the court that information from Charlotte Fakes had been used in a blackmail attempt. Mr Smith added: “With regard to the blackmail attempt, the victim of that was my client who has given me instructions to reveal it was him who was the victim. “My client was contacted by somebody who wanted a sum of cash from him in return of non-disclosure of information. My client reported the matter to Robertson and he referred to him to the Metropolitan Police and somehow Robertson hoovered it back up. There was an inquiry which appeared to go nowhere.” Mr Grier’s cases were brought in the light of admissions made by the Crown in another case brought by the businessmen David Whitehouse and Paul Clark. Prosecutors have admitted that Mr Whitehouse and Mr Clark were wrongfully arrested and prosecuted. The two men are seeking a total of £20.8 million from the Crown Office and Police Scotland. This week, the former Rangers executive Charles Green was also told that he was able to receive damages after the Crown admitted it had conducted a “malicious” prosecution against him. In the latest case yesterday, Mr Smith asked Lord Tyre to order the police to hand over documentation relating to the failed prosecution. The advocate also asked the court to order the police to hand over a copy of the Charlotte Fakes database. Lord Tyre ordered that the police hand over the documents and information being sought by Mr Smith. The case will next call for another procedural hearing alongside Mr Grier’s other action on December 9.

Wore it to many a wedding myself too. I just think they didn’t do a great job of the market research on this one. Scottish men tend not to like standing out in bright clothes.

These set the kilt off nicely too.

Yep, that's the tartan I was married in as well. New one looks fine but a bit too light for my tastes.

Agreed. That was the one I got married in.

The original one was the nicest and I'm not sure why they need yet another one.

We're through now, no need for this pointless nations league rubbish anymore ? Withdraw Jack and mcLaughlin immediately.