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I understand out travelling support being loyal and "follow following" but surely the time has truly come to hit them ALL where it hurts, in the pocket.

Well, guys, it is clear that the SPFL is calling the Club's position and it is time to get the ya-yas out. If Rangers has evidence sufficient to have caused its actions over the holiday weekend, then it will have to pursue an Interdict in court. It will have to do this quickly, ie tomorrow or Friday, this week. I don't even know if this is possible. If Park, and the Board,and the Club, were showboating, and acting on a whim, then I am speechless, as the outcome will be worse than that which would result from maintenance of the traditional dignified silence.

Appointing Hearts and Hamilton to lead up the reconstruction debate shows one thing and one thing only. It has been a total stitch up and they don't care who sees it.

One thing I have noticed is that Dundee FC refer to the SPFL as "The Centre". Have they never read John Le Carre?

The Board threw down a challenge. It is up to the Board to follow that through. If it was merely grandstanding or posturing, then it deserves all that it gets. There is one rather important thing to bear in mind, one that I hope The Board took into account before launching its weekend assault; to wit, Scottish football teams, and their supporters, hate Rangers, and they hate Pederasty FC, too. The difference, in practice, is that they realise that they may damage Rangers, but that the Molesters remain untouchable, and will remain so, for the forseeable future.

I suspect that Dundee will have found that they voted yes and got stiffed for their trouble. Likewise, so too will Hearts. because you are right, they won't vote to lose a home game against us and Celtic, all to be replaced with home game against, say, Dundee.

The big problem is ... the world will not care. Scottish football is insignificant even on a bright day without war, Corona et al. What happens in that dark place behind Hadrian`s Wall where males run about in skirts is of no concern to anyone. And in 3 months time, no-one will care anyway. UNLESS ... someone takes the SPFL to court over this and attracts worldwide interest (albeit diminished by the tragedy goin on out there). UEFA may take note though and does not like associations in legal quarrells.

Utter Scum In other news 761 people died in the UK today.....

Exactly why they are playing the "it didnt arrive card" They obviously had a good IT cleanse over the weekend before any external people get a sniff. Its very simple to make the email trail of this disappear from both mail servers

But this is the future Fucked over in 2008 Fucked over in 2012 Fucked over in 2020 I see a pattern developing here, how many more times do we sit back and get fucked before we actually do something?

too right they will.... You just need to read this to know... ""The resolution also gives authority to the board to make a decision on the remainder of the Ladbrokes Premiership season and the board is committed to consulting with Premiership clubs before any such decision is made." " Which of ANY of the clubs in the top flight will vote against it, us aside ? 1. They are all desperate for money so will take whatever they get in the position they are in 2. Any such vote, I think, requires an 11-1 affirmative vote 3. Two clubs would have voted against - us and Hearts 4. Reconstruction to not relegate Hearts has been "put on the table" 5. Ann Budge is to chair that committee (absolutely screaming of conflict of interest) 6. Reconstruction.... because Budge will ensure there IS reconstruction which ensures Hearts aren't relegated - and therefore the vote will be 11-1 All with little more desired than to hand Celtic a title. Scottish football, still hating itself to death - sickened to the point of "almost" wanting to turn my back on it all. Absolutely appalling, disgusting charade

I hope their club dies. What a deceitful way to do business. Corruption doesn't even begin to describe this whole affair.

I see Jimmy Greaves is home from hospital a wee light of good news in these horrid times

I can see why you might say that but don´t agree. Let´s look at the period 2006 - 2015, we had leaders (as a club) who actively sought division within fan politics for their own interests and it contributed to how events played out during a very complicated period. On the other side of the city, unpalatable as it is, Fergus McCann actually led the club in a much more constructive way. It built the base for where they are today and therefore makes it very difficult for us and easier for them to keep their distance. That brings us to the SPFL and why IMO it is important to take advantage of the current battle and force the Celtic Minded controlling structure out and further discredit the seemingly inevitable, eventual calling of positions. You won´t reverse things overnight but we have to start winning our share of the battles. For that, we need leadership, a holistic strategy (and money).

What planet is MacLennan on and what credibility does he think he has left? At the weekend he exonerated Doncaster and Laidlaw of any wrongdoing and said that everything had been done properly. A not so polite "Shut up and fuck off while we wait for Dundee to hand in their Yes vote after they accept whatever crumbs fall of our table." Now, at the threat of an interim interdict from Partick Thistle, he says "Oh we might have to have a look at what happened on Friday after all." Perhaps he is planning that the SPFL should employ the same investigators who are going through the emotional carnage generated by Celtic Boys Club on behalf of its Separate Entity - so that after a lengthy and uncommitted search through the long grass we'll still have no answers in 3 years time. The sooner this useful idiot is shown the door the better.

As the old saying goes: "Two Rangers' Supporters......three opinions".

Lifted from FF: Brief Summary of Tonight's Meeting MearnsUnionist Well-Known Member 47 minutes ago #1 As much as I can say Bears. Another meeting tomorrow night at 5pm. Rangers aren't letting up with the push for the public enquiry, or relaxing their demand for the suspensions of previously named persons. This isn't going to be resolved overnight and we need to show a bit of patience, as frustrating as that may be. It is also important that we don't allow them to play the victim card, which they are so desperate to do. No matter how much you despise "the accused", please refrain from abusing them, especially in a sectarian way, on social media. Don't give them any ammo to use against us that may allow them to dodge the accusations. It's a bit like the old Jimmy Reid speech on the Clyde when the shipyards went on strike, if you know what I mean. The club are 100% committed to fighting this, but we need to understand what they're up against and support them towards the end result we all want. Sorry I can't elaborate any more on details at this stage, but that will come.

There's a big difference between what happened in 2008/12 and now. At least years ago they tried to hide the corruption and bribery. These days it's just so blatant. They don't care anymore because they know they can get away with it now that everyone in a position of power is controlled. I don't give a damn about the title. We lost that by the end of January. What concerns me is that we will never be allowed to win another one so long as they can get away with what they want. I can't see how we will ever have a level playing field. I'm trying to be optimistic, but every time there's light at the end of the tunnel, it turns out to be a train heading straight for us. I wish the current board had a silver bullet but they don't. I doubt they've really got any evidence which is strong enough to remove the main culprits so we are now facing further years of this. That's not the fault of our board though. I just hope however they take a stand and refuse all away tickets from now on. That is something that's becoming increasingly important to me. If our fans can't be trusted to boycott these clubs (which they can't) I'd like the club to take action. That will make more enemies but how can it possibly be worse than it is at the moment? One thing is for sure and that is that clubs will collapse next season. I expect many larger clubs to collapse first. I just hope our fans stick with our club though because every club in the world is vulnerable at the moment. Our club needs us more than ever right now.

Is there anyone dishonest enough to say we wouldn't want the title awarded to us if we were currently points ahead of Celtic? The truth is we performed on the park like donkeys since New Year and the outrage at the undoubted SPFL is essentially because we are grasping at straws to prevent Celtic having 9 titles in a row. We'll see if Rangers has anything that will set the SPFL back on its heels. I hope they do but it won't have any bearing on Celtic being gifted their 9 in a row.

Neil Doncaster as we speak.

Don't think anyone is denying that, however it completely misses the point of the argument. Also completely misses the point of coercion, bullying, a fucked up vote, lies and deceit

Lifted from FF: SPFL reconstruction: 14 team Premiership would be "insane" claims Ayr United chairman Lachlan CameronThe straight-talking Ayr owner insists reconstruction should not be about "appeasing" certain clubs.Ayr United chairman Lachlan Cameron tonight branded the idea of a 14 team Scottish Premiership "insane" as he pledged to vote against any such move.The Somerset Park chief fired a warning shot as the stage was set for talks on SPFL reconstruction.It follows Dundee's long-awaited vote earlier today that signalled the early end of the lower league seasons.Crunch negotiations are now set to take place on the future setup of the game.But Ayr owner Cameron is furious at the prospect of an expanded Premiership welcoming Inverness, who currently sit second in the Championship, two places above Ayr in fourth.He told the Ayrshire Post : "I have no interest in suing people or pursuing legal challenges."But if that is the proposal put to us, I will find myself having a very real problem."You can't tell me that, all of a sudden, a 14 team Premiership is the solution to our game's problems."Let's be realistic about this. If we go down this road, we're doing it to appease the likes of Hearts and Partick Thistle."And I'm sorry but that's insane."If you're going to restructure, do it properly, not because you're worried about the legal challenges flying around."Also, why should Inverness be promoted from our league when they are in a play-off place just the same as Dundee and Ayr United?"I would view that as grossly unfair."The 42 member clubs are set to chew the fat as Hearts' Ann Budge and Hamilton's Les Gray lead a reconstruction taskforce.But Ayr chairman Cameron insists his club won't be bullied into backing the much mooted 14 team setup.He said: "We've done the logical thing by finally passing the SPFL resolution."It was pretty ugly and not perfect, and not everyone was going to like it, but it was the best way forward in the circumstances as far as I could tell."We're in danger of opening ourselves up to more farce here."If I could be convinced that a 14 team Premiership was the way to go, of course I'd support it. But I'm not."And by the way, it's not like I'm a huge fan of a 16 team setup either."I have long argued for either 18 or 20 but we all know that will never happen."What I'm simply saying is you can't force through a 14 team Premiership off the back of all this. It wouldn't be right."

Might have been left a fair bit of Euromillions.

When Douglas Park had a go at Shifty for the Private Eye article this morning (Daily Record), the SPFL office would have been almost happy,...as it smelt like desperation heading towards a familiar result. Next time we send out the angry statement, it´ll just be laughed at and mocked by the Scottish game in general. If this heads where it looks like going, it´s a bad start for Douglas Park and the new PR man. I feel sorry for the younger generation of supporter who haven´t seen a successful Rangers team and worry about the future.

Read the statement - there is no guarantee of reconstruction just a working group to look into it. They'll be no reconstruction that I am sure of.

Only upside for me? The fact that 8.75 in a row will always be laughed at. If we had finished the season we woulda ended up about 20+ points behind. The legal fight is partick and stranraer not ours. Our goal must be to get shot of these cocky bastards and people are taking notice. Common when was last time Michael stewart AND even fucking tom English both back Rangers opinion of the spfl.

Sadly you are correct. And it is a frustration that we simply don't see how much stronger we could be by taking a personal hit from time to time.

I'm not holding my breath for U.E.F.A. to do anything of interest to us. I'm quite sure that seeds of change have been planted though. There are a few clubs that are going to be damaged by this and many others who can now see that they are being lied to. This is all before we even consider any possible legal action.

Playing the long game? Anybody who expects me to believe that can go fuck themselves.

"Though the straits be broad or narrow, follow we will."

I honestly think this is the beginning of the end of Scottish football as we've known it. There has been bitterness for some time but this whole affair has just intensified that and I feel even more bitter now (and I didn't think that was possible) at these clubs for allowing this corruption to take place. I will take great delight as many of these clubs die off. Even if the SPFL get their way here, let's all do what we can by not giving these clubs a single penny. Let's see how many of them die off without our financial support. Corrupt scumbags, every one of them.

I think Partick will show there next hand before us

Well Rangers, it's time to go to war. Let's see what we've been keeping up our sleeves for the last 2 or 3 days. If we do nothing to fight this corrupt vote/resolution/cabal I'll never set foot in Ibrox again.

Dynamite IF true https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1250447255091523587

"Despite being electronically submitted, for whatever reason, our vote did not reach the centre" (SPFL.) They've been in discussion with them all week ,and there's still no answer as to why the vote didn't reach them. They also seem unhappy with ICT ,and Partick Th ,even though both clubs have been transparent throughout, can't say the same for Dundee.

? I rest my case.

I was moreso pointing towards the lack of real leadership. You, me or the next man saying the obvious aint the same.

I think Mearns Unionist's comment is quite clear - don't make sectarian comments about those Rangers want to see suspended and be patient. You could have Hannibal or Alexander the Great telling us all what to do and you'd still have people not doing it on social media, such is the nature of that beast.

I understand they had to be cautious (but let’s be honest there is no way Doncaster or Lawell can sue anybody making accusations over this) and I don’t know how they managed to keep cool and professional when we can see clearly what is going on. They guys done really well.

I thought the boys were very factual and kept their calm as well as could be As I said could feel Colin’s frustration and that’s basically where we all are here. But professionally done because we can’t throw around accusations because that will be jumped on but we can spell it out indirectly & that came across really well Think Gersnet has a great product & the things Gersnet are doing podding wise as a group are fantastic Well done Ross, David & Colin