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  1. I have a new request underway relating to referrals to the Compliance Officer by the BBC. In no way can it be interpreted as relating to BBC output. Of course they may not have referred anyone from last season but if the art, literature, journalism argument is used then I will appeal that.
    9 points
  2. Simply put dB BBC Scotland sports department is out of control. They are biased and unreasonable and do not allocate the money Rangers fans give them in a way that fairly reflects our interests. As you can see from exchanges the BBC is largely unaccountable to the public. However London does ultimately control BBC Scotland and complaints are made to London. People there (I hope) will start to question people here, but only if we keep complaining. Don't let them think we don’t know what is going on. Their reputation is sinking and their listeners are falling. This will continue with their low budget Scottish channel. Don’t let them off the hook.
    8 points
  3. Firstly apologies for the length of the text below but some interesting observations may be drawn from the lack of accountability of the BBC and the use of their interpretation of journalistic freedom. Anyone using the FOI route in the BBC should be interested and this may help you decide how to approach the BBC. The BBC rejected my request and I appealed to the Information Commissioner. We all know the answer to the question I asked but it’s important to keep highlighting to London the dissatisfaction with their service. Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA)Your FOIA request to the BBC I am writing from the Information Commissioner’s Office to explain the Commissioner’s preliminary conclusion with respect to your complaint. The Commissioner is satisfied that the BBC has correctly handled your request for information under the FOIA. Summary of the correspondence You made a request for the following information: "Please can you advise me how much of BBC Scotland budget was allocated to cover ‘away matches’ in the group stage Europa League matches involving Celtic and Rangers in football season 2018/19? For example how much money was spent on fees to subcontracted staff, hotel and travel expenses including subsistence, overtime, additional broadcasting costs for technical and operational necessities, hiring of equipment or facilities. I do not need the figure broken down by expense type but an overall total sum of money or budget allocated to those matches will suffice.”On 8 March 2019 the BBC responded to your request. The BBC explained that it did not believe that the information was caught by FOIA because it was held for the purposes of ‘art, journalism or literature’. Some key principles about the operation of FOIA Although the BBC is listed as a public authority in the FOIA it applies to the BBC only to a limited extent. The BBC is a public authority for the purposes of the FOIA – “in respect of information held for purposes other than those of journalism, art or literature.” This is known as the Schedule 1 derogation. This means that information held for the purposes of journalism, art or literature is not covered by the FOIA but is derogated. The Commissioner can only consider concerns within the scope of the FOIA. The Commissioner is unable to compel the public authority to provide information outside its obligations under FOIA. The operation of the derogation is explained in more detail below. How the derogation works Since the FOIA came into force, the issue on derogation has created considerable litigation about what this means. The High Court, the Court of Appeal and the Supreme Court have explained their views about when the derogation will apply and their decisions are binding on the Commissioner. In summary, if the information is held and relates to ‘output’ then it falls outside FOIA. In 2012, the Supreme Court in Sugar (Deceased) v British Broadcasting Corporation and another [2012] UKSC 4 gave a clear definition of what the phrase ‘journalism, art or literature’ means in FOIA and what types of information it will cover; the Supreme Court found that, “…the composite expression ‘journalism, art or literature’ seems to be intended to cover the whole of the BBC’s output in its mission (under article 5 of its Royal Charter) to inform, educate and entertain the public. On that comprehensive approach the purposes of journalism, art or literature would be, quite simply, the purposes of the BBC’s entire output to the public.” (Lord Walker at para 70). In relation to journalism the Supreme Court accepted the Information Tribunal’s definition of journalism as comprising three elements: • The first is the collecting or gathering, writing and verifying of materials for publication. • The second is editorial. This involves the exercise of judgement on issues such as: * the selection, prioritisation and timing of matters for broadcast or publication; * the analysis of, and review of individual programmes; and * the provision of context and background to such programmes. • The third element is the maintenance and enhancement of the standards and quality of journalism (particularly with respect to accuracy, balance and completeness). This may involve the training and development of individual journalists, the mentoring of less experienced journalists by more experienced colleagues, professional supervision and guidance, and reviews of the standards and quality of particular areas of programme making.” Also the Supreme Court found (in a 4:1 majority) that if the information is held by the BBC to any significant degree for the relevant purposes (i.e. journalism, art, literature) it is exempt from production under FOIA, even if the information is also held for other purposes[1]. Therefore provided there is a relationship between the information and one of the purposes listed in Part VI of Schedule 1 – which are to be read to mean ‘output’ – then the information is derogated. The information relevant to the request need not be journalistic, artistic or literary material itself. All that must be evidenced is that the information requested has a relationship with the BBC’s output. Is there a relationship between the information requested and ‘output’? The information you have requested, relating to the budget for coverage of away matches is information held for the purpose of 'journalism, art or literature'. This is because this information is linked to the BBC’s output, in particular its decisions regarding how much of its budget to allocate to cover away matches and therefore what information is broadcast in this area. As a result I am satisfied that in this case the Commissioner has no jurisdiction in this matter and therefore no statutory power to order disclosure. You may wish to read some decision notices regarding the application of the derogation at the link below by selecting the BBC under the ‘Authority’ tab: http://search.ico.org.uk/ico/search/decisionnotice The Commissioner’s preliminary conclusion in this case As a preliminary conclusion, the Commissioner is satisfied that the requested information is derogated and therefore the BBC is not obliged to comply with Parts I to V of the FOIA with respect to this request. Progression of this case and actions required Please consider the following options: 1. It may be case that you are prepared to withdraw this complaint at this point given the information above. This does not mean that you are satisfied with the situation, but that you understand that any decision notice you will receive will be highly likely to uphold the position of the BBC and find against you. Should you agree to withdraw your complaint without a decision notice you would not then be able to appeal this case to the First-tier Tribunal (Information Rights).2. The alternative is that you want to proceed to a decision notice and as explained above it is highly likely to uphold the position of the BBC and find against you. Both parties will however have a right of appeal at the First-tier Tribunal (Information Rights) where there are grounds to do so. If you require a decision notice I would ask you to provide your arguments about why you disagree with the preliminary view that is outlined above and encourage you to read through the material that I have referenced.
    6 points
  4. The hurt in their voice tonight is quite something to listen to. I try not to pay too much attention to them but ECL qualification would have brought silly money to them and allowed them to pull away from us again, it’s a big bonus.
    5 points
  5. They'll be frantically checking the oppostition team sheet for ineligible players as we speak!
    4 points
  6. It gets better for the Rangers. Our Colts won 0-2 at Stair Park, and ra green'n'grey youngsters lost out on penalties at Falkirk. It's the caramel on my wafer.
    3 points
  7. Given Kent has removed all his Liverpool pictures from his Instagram account, it seems clear that's where his comments are aimed.
    3 points
  8. It's a clanging bell and tumble weed in the PQ Gang Hut. Tom English is distraught. The turnips will be playing Swedes next to qualify for the Europa Cup. Conceding four goals at home, Neil has got ra green'n'grey going in the right direction. What about the coefficient?
    2 points
  9. A dark day for the coefficient. Titter.
    2 points
  10. Well that's a rather pleasant turn up for the books.
    2 points
  11. Tom says to Pat in the Gang Hut, "Celtic are so good creatively". Hey Tom, the final result in your own midden is FC Cludgie 3 FC Cluj 4.
    2 points
  12. Anybody else expecting the tims to put in a bid for him, especially as they need a distraction after their humiliation tonight..?
    2 points
  13. Let’s not forget they managed to get pumped by League 1 Falkirk in the Challenge Cup as well ? Getting knocked out of 2 Cups in one night. Surely a record??
    2 points
  14. I can see your argument too Gonzo and I sympathise with your anger and frustration. We have been treated terribly by BBC Scotland and we should not have to put up with it. However before Gerrard arrived there was not a cat in hell's chance of that changing because nobody gave a fuck about Murty or Pedro beyond the Scottish media. Gerrard is different. If he leads Rangers to 55 then I think the BBC can't ignore it even if the pygmies at PQ want to. Happy to agree to disagree.
    2 points
  15. Do managers ever get drugs tested?
    1 point
  16. Ah well assuming we and them reach group stages they won't have advantage of applying pressure by possibly winning on Saturdays as they will be playing same day as we are.
    1 point
  17. Okay, let's get a wee bit serious, stop the laughing at the back. It is ten past ten, twenty minutes after the game finished at Sellik Park, and that's after the Ref allowed six minutes of injury time. BBC Scotland just stopped broadcasting. The PQ Gang Hut has decanted to the the Admiral Bar in Waterloo Street. What a shower of thin skinned cnuts?
    1 point
  18. I see from @kerryfail that Scott Brown & Peter Lawwell are getting the blame. They don’t seem to realise, Dermot Desmond does the exact same to them as Mike Ashley does at Newcastle, ie only in it for a profit. I know they might need the Hollicom fund, but they have took in some amount of money in the last 7 years & paid out very little.
    1 point
  19. I'm never interested in individual results for that lot, but this is hugely significant because their entire business model is based on them reaching the group stages. Having now failed to do that again it puts a huge dent in their finances. It'll now be interesting to see how much of Tierney's £25m gets invested. They can't afford it and yet they can't afford not to. Anyway, that's enough about them. Let's get back to Rangers. Have we signed Kent yet?!?
    1 point
  20. That’ll be the money from Tierney’s sale down the Swanney. Lennon’s first big fuck up. There will definitely be more.
    1 point
  21. I expected they would go through with a narrow win but this result still doesn't surprise me. I saw high;ights of their game at Motherwell and Motherwell were giving them severe problems with regularity. They're suspect at the back and I could see our potent midfield and front line swarming all over them. Their opinion of us over at kiddydale street is one of ok they appear to be a little better and they're winning but who are they beating? No one of any note. They need to examine that a bit further. Who we're beating so far is Kilmarnock who finished 3rd last season and are known to be difficult to beat at home plus hibs who finished 5th. Tack on to that 4 away goals in Europe to a side notable for being strong defensively and our season has been more impressive than theirs to this point. Who have they beaten? Anybody of note? Not unless you consider two teams from last seasons bottom 6 to be notable.
    1 point
  22. ?? Champions league money goes down the drain.
    1 point
  23. Which would be a fair reflection of their output, hence my desire to make it more widely known. Again, that's exactly what I want to happen. I don't think your point of view is wrong. It's reasonable enough. But I think the time for diplomacy has come to an end.
    1 point
  24. If you click on the Rangers TV button on the top left of the screen at any stage it'll take you to the home page where the link to the live game always is. The features such as behind the scenes and "Away days" are brilliant on RTV. It's well worth the money for those alone, never mind the live games. Whoever is responsible for Rangers TV and that site is doing a great job. It's a high quality output every time I've watched something.
    1 point
  25. There's no way Ryan Kent is worth £5m to Rangers.
    1 point
  26. They should never, ever, be welcome back to Ibrox! I don't get why Rangers FC should ever feel the need to? we don't need them!.
    1 point
  27. Rest assured, Walterbear, I'm with you here and have harrassed the BBC / BBC Trust regarding McLaughlin quite a few times myself ... not least with his new club mantra in those dire days. Perhaps one needs to turn this on its head and accuses them of openly mis-using public / license fee money?
    1 point
  28. What happened to Polster? Wasn’t he already Tav’s replacement?
    1 point
  29. Thanks guys, i'll enjoy being a 15 year old for a while
    1 point
  30. Fantastic work Walterbear, your perseverance and tenacity will hopefully reap positive results. As you say, we have to continually keep at them and highlight BBC Scotland bias to London. What London don’t understand is that the rats at BBC Scotland will happily sink the ship, so long as they can damage us while it’s sinking. They are bitter, twisted and sectarian bigots.
    1 point
  31. Our issue is unique to our section as the access is slightly unusual. The cards do work but not for the turnstiles we want them to.
    1 point
  32. Never had any issues thankfully...
    1 point
  33. The smartcards for our section wouldn't work in our traditional turnstiles, and when I raised this with Susan Hannah at the ticket office, she has responded promptly and is arranging for new cards to be issued and for reprogramming to be done, so kudos to her and the other people who are dealing with this problem. I'm very impressed.
    1 point
  34. Cheers for that. Dunno whether "the BBC" as such is at fault in general, as I would assume that a very large percentage of their employees are impartial and respectable journalists and workers. The great problem lies with BBC Scotland and in particular their sports department, as well as some kind of ethos amongst the BBC of protecting their own - well known amongst journalists. And that despite knowing that such behaviour is food and drink to people like Saville or journalists following an agenda. Which is rather irritating, as they clearly are intelligent enough to see what is going on at Pacific Quay. Then you have an institution that was and seemingly is governed by itself, yet being (force) paid for by license fees. In a so-called democratic society. It took Ofcom ages to get a foothold here and they still can`t get them all to the cleaners if need be.
    1 point
  35. This is it. They could flip to totally fair coverage from here on in. Just pretend everything else hasnt happened. It doesnt undo the years of muck we've been served up, or the fact that the people serving it are still running the show.
    1 point
  36. Last night in highlighting the impressive goal tallies of them and Rangers so far this season we had the commentary from 6 or 7 Celtic goals and one Rangers goal.
    1 point
  37. I don't know how they get around football rules, regulations, etc. either. None of the other Basque teams practice such discrimination, as far as I know. Mind you, I think that if you are born in the Basque Country (Spain and France), you qualify. You (almost) have to admire them for their dedicated bloody mindedness. However, I do wonder how, nowadays, they would deal with a player who claimed to "identify" as a Basque.
    1 point
  38. Yes I'll give you that. Was the surprise of the day. I had them as a banker to drop down.
    1 point
  39. Its going to ruin games and I can see it being scrapped eventually. Should just be kept for goal line decisions. The West Ham v Man City game was a joke, Andy Gray torn it apart straight after the game and showed how one goal should have stood and another ruled out.
    1 point
  40. I'd include them if that was the case.
    1 point
  41. The video is 27 minutes long for subscribers https://rangers.co.uk/tv/view.php?it=17582&c=archive&act=watch
    1 point
  42. Utter morons talking shite!!!!!
    1 point
  43. Did Cantona hack his Instagram account ?
    1 point
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