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Rangers victory on Sunday was another welcomed three points as the club aim to finish the season strongly. It was a solid performance and in spells we looked very good, we knocked the ball about very well and looked slick in possession. https://fourladshadadream.blog/2019/05/01/dolly-swept-aside-as-summer-transfer-rumours-step-up-a-notch-again/6 points
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Thanks for posting this, I wasn’t gonna bother as everytime I post @pete & @Frankie make me send them more nudes5 points
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But it's compatible to be a Rangers supporter and support other parties who have links with terrorists, or parties who support illegal wars, or parties who ignore the people after democratic events???? For most people, their views on certain issues are more important than the team they support. I'd vote for any party that I felt would be better for me, my family, friends, and country. If they're good for my team too, it would be a bonus. Yes, I can't stand certain politicians' attitudes towards the club we support, but what I dislike even more is attempts to divide our support by suggesting nonsense like this. You've made your opinions known before, so let me make mine again ..... YOU do more damage to our support than these politicians do. Thankfully, the majority of our support (and vast majority) are smart enough to know that the team you support and the issues important to their own families and friends can be managed completely independently of one another. Rangers is very important to me but by no means even close to what's most important. I'm sure others feel the same way. I just wish there was someone I could vote for. I doubt that'll happen any time soon.5 points
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Morelos isn't the best player in the country by any size of mile. He may be the best striker but it's of little value if he can't be trusted to stay on the park long enough to prove it. The point about Gerrard is twofold. Firstly, I want to see he's in charge and not simply bending to popular opinion - right now he needs to demonstrate to Morelos that his inability to control his behaviour on the park has real consequences and that means sitting on the bench. Secondly, I want to see Gerrard put the team before the player, a team that has been performing consistently well in the league for perhaps the first time this season. I want to believe Gerrard can manage a player like Morelos.4 points
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As it’s leaked now, something I mentioned on our pod on Sunday was names I couldn’t reveal One is Andre Gray of Watford, interest is real & discussions have taken place about a loan Interest in Axel Tuanzebe (someone else first mentioned on here by me few weeks ago) is also real 100% - interest in him is a permanent deal Our targets this summer are absolutely mouthwatering & forget the squad signings now, they aren’t the bigger picture4 points
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My point Bluedell is that no one is working for us, the best we get is ambivalence, and the worst is people who clearly dislike us and make it quite well known. Why is that? Why are there no votes, or at least why is the perception there are no votes, for politicians in being publicly pro-Rangers? To me, these threads come across as some posters using it to have a go at the SNP, to underline their own political beliefs. The SNP didn't invent it, it's been around for a couple of decades now across all political stripes. For me you're not identifying the problem at all, the issue isn't Susan Aitken being a dick on Facebook chat, it's why someone like Susan Aitken feels that's acceptable, indeed maybe desirable. In the end she's doing what the people in power before her also did, and they had a very different political belief. For me, if you want to fix this, you need to address why we have no political capital no matter who is in power. You're making this about the SNP, it's not about them, it's much bigger than that.3 points
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I understand what you're saying here, but anti-independence is a single issue that will be important to some people and not to others. I look around all politically parties and they each stand for something that I find distasteful to say the least. No one can claim to own the moral high ground when the parties you vote for are advocating action that negatively affects other people. You can name any party at the moment and I'll give you examples of things that I find extremely damaging to our society. Let's see who then sits back and who does something about it. The FACT is that there isn't single party I'm aware of that can inhabit the moral high ground so many people on here, including you, then have to decide to either not vote (as is my decision), or vote for the least worst option. For SNP voters on here, I'd certainly expect them to be aware of the attitude that some of its members have towards the club. However, who am I (or who are you) to decide if that consideration is more important than other issues they may hold dear? For Labour voters, I'd expect them to consider the fact that Corbyn is regarded as having sympathies towards certain terrorist groups and is actively trying to disregard the BrExit democratic process, but again if they decide to vote in that direction they will have weighed up the options and on balance decided that it's the least worst option. The same applies to all other parties I can think of, and please don't get me started on the Greens. I bet that almost all SNP voters on here will be frustrated, annoyed, or even furious at the treatment of our club by members of the party they vote for. I certainly haven't seen anyone defend what they've done, but maybe I've missed that. This is our football team's forum so understandably people like you and me will point out the corruption and bias towards our team, and there are certainly plenty of examples coming from various SNP politicians. If it was a political discussion forum there isn't a single person on here who could defend their party against the bias and corruption in other more (in my opinion) important issues. Thankfully Rangers attracts supporters from all backgrounds and that's a strength we have. Just as @Billhas the right to make the interests of our club his most important consideration when voting, others have the right to make other issues (i.e. Non football related) their most important. I cannot understand why anyone would have a problem in respecting that. This thread is now brilliantly demonstrating the point I was trying to make earlier. By us fighting internally we are losing focus on who the real enemy is. The Biased Bhouys Corporation and certain political figures (most notably within GCC at the moment) are where our attention should be, and not on trying to condemn our own fans.3 points
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That's fine in theory, but they don't manage them independently. One is managed and one is ignored. They vote for Rangers haters and do nothing to change the views of the party that they support. They come on here and consistently take the side of the Rangers-hating politicians and try and justify the attitude of those who look to damage our club. If Rangers isn't important enough to you to take into account when deciding who to vote for then fair enough, and I doubt it's the be-all and end-all to anyone but it's certainly a factor and not an issue to ignore. We're talking about politicians who prevent Rangers getting a fanzone, who actively support our biggest rivals in a number of ways and yet Bill is a bigger threat than them because he prioritises Rangers? I really don't get that.3 points
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Hatred is at an all time high and we have division within our own fan base which reflects politics more generally, and in my opinion some Rangers fans are also trying to exploit the situation against some genuine Rangers fans for political ends. It’s a terrible scenario really. Imperative to try and keep politics out of our club but given SNP in Glasgow/West Coast in particular are very anti Rangers we must defend ourselves. That should not mean turning the argument inwards with some Rangers fans saying others are not true supporters it should mean attacking our detractors. I note the West Coast media cottoned on to this story not to protect Rangers but to protect labour. Reading between the lines they are saying labour is being smeared by association with Rangers, they are not saying Rangers are the victims of the SNP. We really need to stick together and attack all our detractors and not each other (that point not so much for this forum but it’s blatant on others).3 points
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It's just all part of the demonisation of Rangers. Would the same "joke" have been made about a Rangers fan attending Parkhead? Absolutely not, because the SNP don't see anything wrong with that. They are encouraging the view that attending Ibrox has negative connotations. It's more to do with having any positive involvement with Rangers as being something bad, than a Celtic fan watching a game with their rivals. You can say that you refuse to join in, which just gives the anti-Rangers SNP further free reign to refuse us a fanzone, build ugly housing around the environs etc, but to dismiss it as a joke is giving encouragement to the enemies of our club.3 points
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Report on tonight's game https://rfcyouths.wordpress.com/2019/04/30/injury-time-stunner-for-under-20s/3 points
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Apart from the last game at Parkhead where he scored the equaliser you mean? Or the game at Ibrox where he created the winner? There's no doubt the lad has to work on his game but he's a better option than Middleton right now...3 points
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Sorry I got mixed up. I thought it was 4lads had a wet dream.?2 points
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Another great read! These guys, along with others on this forum and elsewhere mean we no longer have any reliance on the BBC or daily rags. The quality of insight puts them all to shame. Nice one. Keep em coming!2 points
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There's plenty of examples of them defending the SNP and virtually no examples of them being "frustrated, annoyed, or even furious" that I've seen. I've been critical of them on quite a few occasions.2 points
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If you declare that only those who think in a certain political way can be considered as Real Rangers supporters, guess what happens...2 points
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Its a funny argument this BD - criticism of fans who base support of political party relative to their sporting affiliation, but no criticism of politicians who make their political decisions designed to inflict harm on a football club.2 points
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Excellent riposte to a ridiculous assertion.2 points
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I think it fair to say that the current level of general hatred towards Rangers has never been greater (at least in my memory). It's a spiders web that IMO has never been wider,... some are obvious, even traditional, others are relatively new in their level of bitterness, etc. You have to ask why and it's not one specific answer. It's a complex answer where our own actions or lack of them play a part. Confrontation is a part of life but the cliches, boxing clever and picking your battles come to mind. I've stated on several occasions that generally, we don't do politics very well and we have tended to go where the opposition have either guided us towards or have been comfortable with.2 points
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No but I think a decent run out would be sensible to prepare him in the event he is needed for the Celtic game. 25-30 minutes would do it.2 points
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I could cry when I read this. He's at Watford afterall!!! However the reason I could cry is because you're right. We can't compete with the money they can offer. He's quite similar in style to Morelos (without the high risk) and I think he'd be a standout player up here. We just have to hope that for some players the prospect of trophies and legendary status (when we get 55) is more appealing than the money.2 points
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I think Andre Gray is out of our league. He's 27, @MacK19502 points
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Utter nonsense about Kent gisabeer. Middleton is playing against 18 year olds tonight whilst Kent is playing against seasoned pros. As Frankie says, he’s such an imposter he scored against Celtic AND set one up for us against them in an earlier game - and has torn their fullback a new one continually in the Ibrox game and also in the 2nd half of the last Parkhead game.2 points
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Fair enough Pete but that isn't really the point (perhaps I should have used debatable offside). The point being they didn't even mention it. In this case, a decision that determines goal or no goal opposed to what they did talk about, which was two penalties. To be complete they did harp on about second yellow (red) to Considine, apparently it wasn't.... and Defoe's clash with Keeper which surprisingly Mr.Bio Mechanic judged not to be worthy of a citacion. Given that a rumour I heard on ra grapevine alleged that Claire Whyte was actually Michael Stewart in drag , that probably means JD is ok for the Hibs game, hamstring permitting.2 points
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While watching the game last night I was reminded about how good Glenn Middleton is. It's not just that he is good. It is that he is good at so many things. In addition to being fast his crossing is excellent. When he gets into a goal scoring position he is a cool and reliable finisher. Twice now, against Villarreal alone, he has demonstrated he can use one-touch passing to open up an opposition defence. You wouldn't describe him as a one trick pony ...1 point
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Agree it says he wants Scotland's top scorer and best player by a country mile in his team.1 point
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RANGERS are today delighted to announce the signing of Jake Hastie on a four-year-deal. https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/rangers-sign-jake-hastie/1 point
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If Killie need to beat us to knock the sheep into fourth place, and we don't have anything to play for, I'd give our under 16s a full 90 minutes against them. It'd be good experience for our youngsters, with that added benefit of seeing McInnes' face of fury again!1 point
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Even where these fans support or defend the actions of these political figures?1 point
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Good point re.Tav. Subjective opinion but I reckon he has a better case than Kent to be up for the main award. Most underrated player in Scotland IMO.1 point
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Sorry I missed that, I was on my phone at the time.1 point
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As far as I am aware, I am the only one who has said he is. My motives are quite clear. The enemy is NOT our own fans. The enemy is these politicians (of all parties) who would do us harm, but not just on a football perspective. I'm questioning the motives of those who only want to point at the hypocrisy and corruption of one party when they are all to be scrutinised. If you had read any of my previous messages about politicians you'd know exactly what I think, and you'd equally be left in no doubt that I do not support any political party. The point is that who we support, and our politics do not have to be intertwined. What makes you guys the decision makers on who can be a Rangers supporter and who can't? That's what I find very sinister.1 point
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This 'demonisation' didn't start with Susan Aitken, or even the SNP, it's been going on for a lot longer than that Bluedell. It happened when Labour controlled Glasgow, it happened when Labour controlled Scotland, it happens when Tories are strong or when Tories are weak. For me you saying "anti-Rangers SNP" misses the point, almost all mainstream politicians in Scotland are at best ambivalent towards Rangers. So making this about the SNP and the inevitable polarising of opinions that brings neither addresses the root of the problem or solves the specific issue at hand. The fanzone debacle last summer was annoying and unfair. However, it wasn't a huge surprise either and it didn't happen in a vacuum. I'd contend the same thing would happen no matter who was in power in George Square. I'm not dismissing it as a joke I'm telling you how I thought it was meant. Tell me, how come the political landscape in this city and this country completely changed, moved from Labour domination to SNP domination to SNP with a Tory resurgence, and yet our friends across the city remain largely in vogue and we remain outsiders shouting at the gates with almost no political capital or influence? Do you think that's down to people like?1 point
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Totally agree. You would have to question the motives of those who project the narrative the he is?1 point
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Isn't it strange how we see things so differently. I don't think anyone could argue against the fact that Middleton has a better scoring record, but in my own limited group of friends and family (and those that sit around me at games), it's clear that Kent is the favourite. I just wish we could combine the two because then we have a top player. The problem for me with Middleton is that he's just too easy for seasoned pros to mark out of the game. He's too predictable. Kent on the other hand has that quality which enables him to glide past players. His problem is then doing something useful with it. Both are good players obviously, but I would personally want to do everything we could to keep Kent because Middleton has a long way to go before he can be as effective. Maybe Kent is doing us a favour by not scoring goals until he signs permanently. If Kent had 10-12 goals we'd have no way of affording him. Let's hope we buy him and then develop the decision making side of his game. In my opinion he'd then go from a 5m player to 20m. That's a good investment.1 point
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Lets be honest, half of their team, their best players I would say, were missing.1 point
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We can’t conpete with the league they play in either. Don’t forget ambitious players like Gray want to be playing in the best league in the world. I’d be amazed if he didn’t have a chance to do that.1 point
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I said it was meant as a joke, I didn't say it was funny. Anyone who thinks Frank McAveety could ever be portrayed as being pro-Rangers has clearly never met him. Look, politics is a blood sport. They almost always play the man not the ball, particularly at local level. Do we really feel the politicians who've spoken out against Aitken on this are doing it through altruism or because they think it might damage her and her party and gain them some support? I know what I think. I also think if the shoe was on the other foot they'd happily say the opposite. The fact that our politics seem to be fracturing along 'identity' lines depresses me. Having lived in Northern Ireland I can say that type of politics is not healthy or conducive to getting good public services or indeed good politicians. It's my opinion based on my experiences. Seeing Scotland gradually head down that road too exasperates me. I refuse to join in, I won't cheerlead any particular party simply because I'm a 'bluenose' or a 'Prod' or whatever label I'm supposed to be. Susan Aitken saying she intends to impose restrictions on Orange parades just days after the spitting incident is the least surprising thing I've read on here. I'm disappointed that Rangers remain political kryptonite despite the seismic changes in our political landscape in the last decade. But I'm not surprised and I long ago gave up hope I can influence any change on that. I've concerns over some of the decisions being taken by Glasgow council, this isn't one of them.1 point
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Agreed. If Morelos walks back into this team at the first opportunity it will say something about our manager I'd rather not hear.1 point