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  1. Over the last few months, much has been made of apparent discussions between Rangers and various supporters groups about the creation of a standing section similar to what Celtic have been trialling at Parkhead. So much so that Club1872 is midway through a survey whereby they will consider helping fund such a project. And, as someone who spent the best part of ten years as part of the Blue Order, I can certainly appreciate the nuances of such a debate. There’s no doubt that year on year the atmosphere at Ibrox is gradually getting worse. You can put it down to the awful Offensive Behaviour at Football Act (repealed or not), or even attribute it to our recent financial travails but the very biggest games aside, it’s not often you come away from a home game thinking what a noise the fans made. Sure, our journey down into the lower leagues was never going to match a Champions League run but it’s now been the better part of eighteen months since we returned to the top division and can we really point to a game where the atmosphere matches those of previous years? With that in mind, a standing section via the utilisation of 1:1 rail seating that Celtic have demonstrated makes some sense. Although such a ratio may mean the capacity might actually reduce, fans who stand do suggest they feel more engaged with the game. Rather than sitting moaning and groaning, fans can instead feel part of what’s going on. Being able to move with events in the game sounds somewhat absurd but fans of a certain vintage will identify with such a description. The thought of several thousand Rangers fans being able to stand together and genuinely improve the experience surely can’t fail to excite even the most contemporary supporter. Yeah, I’m all for it. Unfortunately, in my opinion there is also a rather large but. Firstly, the complaints about seated fans not being able to take part in the same way don’t always convince me. Ibrox has been fully seated for nearly thirty years and the atmosphere at many of those games has often blown away supporters and players throughout that period. From games against Parma and Inter Milan to Aberdeen and Celtic; when the fans can be bothered, there’s few stadia that can match us. Ironically, I often wish for a poor referee nowadays as that seems to be one influence that can stop the sweetie papers rustling and get the great bear restless. Even more important, however, are the issues facing our less able fans. Two years ago our website carried an article outlining the difficulties disabled fans experienced when attending football games. Although at the time, it was Hampden that was being criticised for its lack of modern facilities, clearly Ibrox Stadium is closer to our hearts and if we recognise that supporters have to attend 20 games or more here each season, then it should be our primary consideration. In that regard, Rangers do acknowledge the issues they face. With only around 110 wheelchair spaces within a capacity of over 50,000, Ibrox falls well below UEFA guidelines of 230. Approximately 8% of the UK’s population use a wheelchair, so we immediately fail that standard. Similarly, if we add in the lack of facilities available for other beneficiaries of good access then this is a very real problem. Let’s remember not every disability is obvious or that such supporters may have multiple challenges. Indeed, in 2014 the Scottish Government reported that 23% of adults living in Scotland had a long term limiting health condition or disability. These figures show just how important stadium accessibility should be. Of course we can’t be naïve. Implementing properly recommended and fit-for-purpose facilities isn’t cheap and can be logistically difficult. In recent times, Rangers installed just four elevated wheelchair spaces in the Broomloan Stand at a cost of £80,000. The club were also praised for the 2017 opening of their sensory room in the same stand which allows up to eight children and young adults with sensory difficulties, such as autism, acclimatise to the noise, crowds and bustle of a busy match-day. With the aid of the Disability Matters Group and with help from fans funding, this is the kind of the project that can be completed when the club and supporters work together. However it also cost a large five figure sum. Conversely, let’s remember that in recent years the Scottish Government has also spent millions bringing in controversial new laws related to football. Similarly, charities which address the difficulties facing minority groups and reasonably small-scale social issues such as sectarianism and racism are often funded directly from the government and have huge exposure in the media. Yet, the world’s largest minority group are catered poorly within our country’s most popular sport. And little is made of the poor experience they regularly have when attending games. Worse still, many disabled fans haven’t even been given the opportunity to go because our football stadiums cater so poorly for them. Let’s now look at what is offered to disabled fans in this country: Ibrox Stadium Parkhead Pittodrie Fir Park Victoria Park (Global Energy Stadium) After speaking to the supplier of the photos above we can also list a number of other common issues disabled fans face: “Pitch-side low level leaves us at the mercy of the elements. In some grounds the roof extends over the wheelchair area to provide some degree of shelter however most don't. Two that are particularly bad in this respect are Ibrox and Hampden, in both cases the roofs cease directly above the wheelchair areas this causes a cascading effect and lumps of water can absolute soak those below. As such it's not uncommon to see wheelchair users having to leave because they're absolutely soaked. Personally I once got pneumonia at a game.” “The placement of advertising boards and TV cameras tend to obscure what is already a poor view. Little thought goes into their placement and sometimes just moving them a couple of feet would make a massive difference to the wheelchair section (New Love Street and Hamilton’s Superseal Stadium are prime of examples of this).” “Stewards and police obscuring the view is a major and constant problem - at times we're virtually looking at a wall of high visibility jackets totally obscuring the pitch. Kneeling or crouching helps (you'd be amazed at the difference such a simple gesture makes) but it doesn’t happen often enough. If you watch English games on TV note the actions of the stewards there just before HT and FT and you'll see they invariably almost without exception sit, kneel, crouch and sometimes even lay on the ground whilst the game is in play so not to obscure the view.” “Accessing toilets is also a big problem sometimes. Part of that is people who don't need an accessible toilet using it because they can't be bothered to walk five extra yards to the gents. The use of RADAR keys would certainly reduce that happening and quite a few grounds have got RADAR locks fitted. Despite assurances that they would Rangers haven't as yet - in fact one disabled toilet in the East Enclosure has not had a working lock on it all season. Then there is the general shortage of accessible toilets but that's probably a reflection of wider society rather than a football specific problem.” “Access to food and drink is another problem. The best practice recommends that where there is no access to a kiosk then the host club should provide an order and delivery service. Some do (Partick Thistle for one) and it is most welcome however many that should provide this service don't.” “Parking is another major problem for wheelchair users (though I concede that is the case for most all fans). There is a general scarcity of disabled parking bays (ones to standard BS8300) which are 1m wider than normal bays in order that the vehicle door can be fully opened so the wheelchair user can embark and disembark the vehicle. Grounds such as Hampden and the Superseal stadium had to provide disabled parking spaces (BS8300) as part of their planning permissions and licence requirements yet point blank refuse to let disabled fans use them on match days. The best practice guide also recommends that there be a drop off point/pick up point at stadiums for wheelchair users but as far as I'm aware the only club in Scotland doing so are Hearts.” I’m pretty sure we could fill this page with a variety of other photos, videos and dreadful stories but, embarrassingly, said source of the above information then apologised for complaining. Think of that the next time you buy a pie that’s too hot or you have to queue for the toilets. Clearly from these photos the most basic experience offered to disabled fans just isn’t good enough and clubs, football authorities and governments appear to be shirking their responsibilities when it comes to offering suitable access for those who need it. Unfortunately, as much as we have well-meaning advisories and guidelines, there’s no legal enforcement which means progress is slow. In that sense, wouldn’t it be inspiring for our club to take the lead - not to mention Club 1872? Yes it wouldn’t be cheap and yes, there may be more pressing requirements but – as much as it’s not meant by those advocating it – how selfish does the expensive installation of a mass standing section now look? In conclusion, I'd contend that if the Copland Front or one of the Enclosures is to be converted back to standing in the next few years then this should only occur if every single pound spent on such is matched by the same monies (or more) being spent on ensuring Ibrox has beneficial accessibility facilities for a truly appropriate number of fans. That’s the kind of forward thinking our gallant pioneers had and it should be the reasoning used to deliver such as soon as practicably possible. Further reading Our Vision: 'Total Football - Total Access' - http://www.cafefootball.eu/en/our-vision-total-football-total-access
    7 points
  2. I have no agenda against Safe Standing at Ibrox and will vote for it through C1872, however i can't understand how SS came before upgrading the disabled facilities? If there was a choice through C1872 i would vote for a disabled supporters facilities upgrade.
    3 points
  3. We shouldn't be selling him in this window. We need him for the remainder of this campaign both for his goals and for stability of the side. Comparable or even better offers will come in the Summer window when we have had much more time to seek a replacement and get him settled in.
    3 points
  4. Celtic and the SFA will announce plans to build a new joint stadium on the East outskirts of Glasgow within five years. It'll have green and yellow seats. You heard it here first...
    2 points
  5. I am convinced that the SFA will not accept the SRU offer. There is an ulterior motive in all this, though, and it's all about what is best furrasellik.
    2 points
  6. Giving money away to another sport seems crazy. We have three 50,000+ seater stadia and two are not being considered? The SFA are showing no commitment or encouragement to clubs who are trying to improve grounds. I presume that cup finals well also be moved? Will they have 60,000 old firm game travelling from Glasgow to Edinburgh? The SFA are again showing they are not for for purpose.
    2 points
  7. Good I hope they stay at Hampden it is the home of the Scottish football team.
    2 points
  8. All of which is good because they aren't Celtic players, and they will no doubt have to pony up a sizeable chunk of the wages.
    2 points
  9. I am not sure we allowed him to slip away - it is only in the last 6 weeks or so that he has shown any form worthy of offering a new contract. Prior to that, he was struggling to claim a starting spot.
    2 points
  10. I burst out laughing at Edgar's statement to Celtic supporters about their obsession with us (around the 33 minute mark). It's so funny, but so true.
    2 points
  11. 2 points
  12. The tims are spewing that we are being linked with £7m bids, they are slowly beginning to realise that Rangers are getting stronger and stronger.
    2 points
  13. Agreed. I wouldn't be looking to sell him at anything less than £10m.
    2 points
  14. I've been asking about disabled facilities for years now and even asked some of the prominent figureheads among our support to rally together, but they were too busy falling in love with the sound of their own voices.
    2 points
  15. Apparently the £6m offer has been rejected. Great news.
    2 points
  16. Replace him with Kris Boyd. Low-ball Killie to unsetle him and get him to force a move?
    2 points
  17. Ross said all that in his press conference posted on here
    1 point
  18. To be honest, this highlights the absolute ridiculousness of all that money spent at Septic Park in the name of the Commonwealth Games. Look at the “legacy” that money spent has given sport in general, it hasn’t benefitted one team only at all...
    1 point
  19. It is not just Ibrox; the piggery, too, and provincial grounds, as I understand it, will not have the pleasure of hosting, and gaining the substantial income accruing from, internationals, etc. I can only speculate that there is some physical problem which precludes use of the swinefold. I suspect that, if this is true (and we are told that structural monitoring is current), fhilthfootballclub will 'move' to Hampden, which will be retained as 'The National Stadium'.
    1 point
  20. Just read that they paid “upwards of £5m” and most of his 40k a week wages (which is £2m a year). That would explain why Chelsea let him go for such a ridiculously length of time. As you say good news for us ultimately because it just means they are being propped up by players who don’t belong to them and won’t make them money.
    1 point
  21. I have no argument against safe standing if the club are paying for it. But it’s obvious that Club1872 have already determined that they will pay for it if the members agree in a ballot. No other proposal will be put to members as far as I can ascertain, so the only way to stop this money being spent is vote against. When we have 25% of share issue we can maybe then spend cash on this vanity project. As others have said, our handicapped fans should be at the front of the que for any spend available.
    1 point
  22. Man's an absolute helmet, he must just think everyone is a gullible idiot. That's a couple of times he has been caught out with daft shite like that, surely no one takes what he says at face value
    1 point
  23. The same Celtic who have low balled Dundee and Motherwell for the sake of a few hundred thousand...
    1 point
  24. In my own humble opinion, safe standing is a complete waste of time and money and, I believe, support for it is largely motivated by the fact others have pursued it. To be frank, it is so far down the list of priorities for Rangers that it shouldn't even be in sight. By contrast, our facilities for disabled fans are obsolete and demeaning and a serious upgrade is long overdue.
    1 point
  25. Aye, right enough... Musonda would choose the Scottish backwaters over Real Madrid - do people like Rodgers take these pressers with a straight face ??
    1 point
  26. Good fortune Danny Wilson. Thanks for your service to Rangers.
    1 point
  27. Loved that article, it hits the nail bang on the head in so many ways. The only bit I disagree with is any support for safe standing at all, which I am absolutely 100% against in our current climate and financial state. Come back to me in 15 years when we have everything else done and we can look at it again. For us to make a stand to be the club we should be, this is the type of pioneering priority we should be looking at, way ahead of memorial gardens, standing areas, fanzones etc. This should be our number one priority for fan safety, comfort and basic human decency. It is not a cash generator, but would make such a bold and forward thinking statement that it could be the catalyst for others around the country to take a look at their own efforts. If we need to throw some C1872 money at a project that helps fans and our club's profile, this should be well above anything they have suggested thus far, and certainly a million miles ahead of safe standing for a minority of supporters who already stand anyway. I dont know how anyone can argue otherwise.
    1 point
  28. Not just that all the derision and comments about our transfer dealings becomes laughable when you see them trying to rip-off Motherwell for a goalkeeper.
    1 point
  29. If they offered £10m I’d take it. In the meantime, get him signed up on a longer term improved deal as he is undoubtedly a saleable asset.
    1 point
  30. I'm still not sure I'm buying this. President Xi sees football as a way to push China on as a global player but in nationalist terms, that is he wants them to be dominating Asian football and competing much better at World Cups, and to that end China imposed a 100% tax on transfer fees of foreigners, to encourage investment in Chinese players instead. £6m for Morelos = £12m in reality and while I like him that does seem rather a lot. Maybe it's the papers bumming up our player for once.
    1 point
  31. £6M is too low, for the value he provides to our team. It's bigger than the reported bid for Dumbele...
    1 point
  32. That has to be a nonsense story right? If Morelos wanted to go and there was any chance of a fee like that I can't see any club turning that sort of money down, let alone us when we're trying to rebuild. Players are only worth what someone will pay for them at any one time and as we've found, English clubs see Scotland as some sort of bargain basement store - our club even moreso given what's happened to us.
    1 point
  33. Can't see us turning that down - especially if our interest in Tyler Roberts can be expedited. However it will certainly be a risk moving on one of our best players whose contribution has been superb this season.
    1 point
  34. Desperate clickbait from the ET. The colour of the shirts is totally inconsequential when you read the story.
    1 point
  35. Opening bid for Morelos maybe, come back with a £10mil offer and some prawn crackers and we'll talk.
    1 point
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  37. The Rangers Youth Development Company has continued its incredible support for the Rangers Academy by presenting Head of Academy Craig Mulholland and youth graduate Ross McCrorie with a cheque for £250,000. https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/rydc-250k-cheque-presentation/
    1 point
  38. I'd imagine he'll switch between a 4-2-3-1 and the diamond we used before the winter break.
    1 point
  39. Easy to forget that Morelos has been playing constantly now for the best part of a year so it's inevitable he's going to look a bit jaded. Ideal chance to rest him on Wednesday and hopefully Cummings goes onto do the business too.
    1 point
  40. If dB would be best sticking to facts before defending should those attacking him not be doing likewise ?
    1 point


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